Congratulations you thought (wrongly of course) that 'systems' can only mean a group of celestial bodies. In this instance, systems means the old ADS/DSS and the new FSS/DSS. Please try again
What?
I didn't expect that level of nonsense.
LOL
If I wanted a 'radio-tuning' game I would have rather bought an old radio.
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What?
I didn't expect that level of nonsense.
LOL
All of these weird conditions and punishments for using the ADS... its just great. Any suggestion that brings it back is just great with me.
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I can't shake off the feeling that all the suggestions of "weird conditions and punishments" is just a reflection of the suppressed desire to get the ADS back. [hehe]
Its not meant as punishment. I just want to seperate those two systems very clearly. As much as i am open to compromise, in one thing i will remain adamant. No usage of ADS and FSS at the same time. Not as integrated part, not as seperate part.
Hate to burst your bubble old man, but StuartGT didn't count all the posts, the information is readily available. On the forum page, just click on the 'number of replies' listed against each thread, a separate window will pop up with that exact information. Guess an apology is in order now huh
I edited my post.
...and we don't apologise on the internet, son.
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Exactly, if someone wants to use the old mechanics (I can't use the most apt word 'system' because it apparently confuses people), fine let them go for it. But if they do they shouldn't have access to any part of the new mechanics.
Nope, I completely disagree. The old system was pressing a button for some seconds, and bam - sorry, "honk" - there you go and can look at a completely revealed system map. Exactly this is the thing I would never like to see again in ED. If some people don't want to use the FSS, ok, then let them fly to the bodies to explore them, but only give them targetable unknown signals and only reveal the type of the body as soon as they're in ADS-surface scanning distance. That's would be a form of coexistence of the old and new system I could live with.
Instead of wasting time on bringing back bad old mechanics, the new scanner system should be worked at by the devs. E.g. it should not be possible to look at the detailed surface map of a landable planet in the system map before the planed has been probed.
I would consider it a compromise, I don't think that the ADS is going to reinstated so some kind of middle ground that could improve the FSS while also not revealing too much would be a middle ground, if designed correctly.
I figure that since the honk reveals some data that is shown in the FSS, there's no real reason that the System Map couldn't also show that data. The System Map and Orrery wouldn't show what the FSS does after tuning and resolving the bodies but it could show the blue blobs (or some other representation) but couldn't be targeted directly. It might also give some hints as to what the blob represents so if a CMDR wants to travel towards it to resolve it they can. Or if the CMDR thinks it's worthwhile to investigate further they can still use the FSS and tuning to resolve the bodies they suspect are there. For those that are concerned about spoiling the reveal, the System Map would give very little information but just enough hints to travel out towards, but not directly at, the body.
Thank you for your response. I hope I understood correctly that what annoys you is the way the FSS needs to be operated in the game?
If the detailed surface map is only shown in the system map after probing the planet/moon, then the information of that scan should only be given by probing the planet/moon (and with it the rewards for detail surface scanning).
Otherwise it would be cherry picking or something
This goes out to all you old school "explorers" who just can't seem to adjust to the new reality that the ADS is gone and never coming back:
[video=youtube;vbncFS-HavM]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vbncFS-HavM[/video]
[video=youtube;vbncFS-HavM]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vbncFS-HavM[/video]
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I'm guessing that many who say this actually think the FSS is difficult or requires some skill to use. The advantages are obvious, it's quicker and it allows players to discover the presence of POI's. Difficult or skillful? Even FD said that they consider it to be intuitive and easy to learn.
Other than that, it's just the same information given in different formats, so the two systems are entirely compatible.
The one thing I would say is that targeting information from the system map should not transfer to the FSS. If a player wants the advantages of the FSS, speed, the eradication of SC journeys and the potential to discover POI's, they should still use the FSS to locate the object, but why not let them decide if there's something they want to locate from a graphical system map representation?
All that said, I'd go back to the old method of exploring in its entirety if I had the option. I find the FSS yanks me out of the game so completely I would rather never use it.
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Needlessly mean. There are players half way across the galaxy demanding to be teleported back you know that right? And if they move those people its pretty much admitting that the FSS is a game killing pile. Its spoiling peoples fun, why you need to be happy about that?
Fdev is treating people badly.
I was a mixed bag of beeing excited vs. anxious as well before the update. And even if i wouldn't have liked the new system i would have sucked it up and continued, maybe just shortening the route. Asking to be teleported back is quite childish imho. Sorry, but thats my opinion on that topic.
You have mentioned this before, so can you quantify your statement? Exactly how many players are demanding to be teleported back, 1, 5, 50, 1000?
On the other hand with a reported 5,000 commanders signed up for DWE, which is more than double the number of participants to the previous one, it could be surmised that more players are embracing the new exploration tools!
Yeah it probably is but FSS is obviously making somebody sad and i know just how they feel. Maybe they had their plans for months ahead and was a heavy scanner. If i didnt know how to contain my disapointment i might have asked the same thing in his place. I might have even just self destructed and walked away tbh. Im hanging about out of hope still.
at least one. I suspect there might be a couple more about the place. Try to put yourself in their shoes. I dispute that the FSS is the reason DWE numbers are over 9000.
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are you able to provide details on how many commanders signed up to DWE post mini-game update?
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