IMHO there is more easy solution to this than credit transfer just simply allow two ships with extended cargo scopes to dock with each other and transfer their cargo directly from bay to bay
IMHO there is more easy solution to this than credit transfer just simply allow two ships with extended cargo scopes to dock with each other and transfer their cargo directly from bay to bay
simply allow two ships with extended cargo scopes to dock with each other and transfer their cargo directly from bay to bay
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IMHO there is more easy solution to this than credit transfer just simply allow two ships with extended cargo scopes to dock with each other and transfer their cargo directly from bay to bay
This is the best thing I have heard yet.
Awful idea: In the game as it is, time == money. The more time you put in, the wealthier you get and the better ship you can afford.
I don't mind getting killed by someone who has put more time and effort into building a better ship than me.
I do mind having my time and effort wasted by some idiot who paid $10 for a bazillion credits to buy a ship better than mine instead of earning it.
The moment I realize that I have to pay to win, is the moment I stop playing.
I don't mind getting killed by someone who has put more time and effort into building a better ship than me.
I do mind having my time and effort wasted by some idiot who paid $10 for a bazillion credits to buy a ship better than mine instead of earning it.
The moment I realize that I have to pay to win, is the moment I stop playing.
They can't even get the chat working, and the ships get blown up by the stations at random, and you want to trust them to implement (virtual) currency transfer? I dread to think how many "my credits just disappeared" threads will fill the forum when that happens. Probably one, since the mods will just merge them all into one big ball of anger.
Yes, I think it will be pretty simple for devs to counter that. Random modifier to make canisters jettison in slightly random directions and move with slightly random speeds. Can't predict where they will go and therefore can't just park ship in the one end waiting to receive. Again, don't forget with palladium it would freaking 142 canisters. That's a good deal of time on the sellers account. These guys need to make a living and spending considerable time delivering like that. And good point on the escort, but that would double their costs! That would require their dollar per palladium price to be so high that very few would want to pay. No. There won't be a market for it on those grounds. Maybe that could change, if credits were much MUCH *MUCH* harder to earn in game; then naturally buyers will to pay more dollar per palladium would rise considerably. Of course it would also be harder for the gold sellers to earn in game credits, but these guys tend to train night and day in sweat shops getting really good and efficient at their trade which would somewhat make up for the increased difficulty.
About buying Platinum: it wasn't quite true when I said they can't be bought. However it's quite rare to find somewhere to buy them. So again more considerable inefficiency on the gold sellers part. Would be easier to just buy palladium with million credits earned through easy-mode trading in a type 9.
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I'm sorry if this has been mentioned I only made it through about half the previous posts.
The ability of players to transfer credits is a planned feature. It's in the design docs. Unless the devs state otherwise I consider it something that will be implemented.
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=6299
The relevant section:
Players can trade directly with each other
The player trade interface is available when both players are docked at the same market
The player trade interface is available when two players dock ships
The player trade interface is a secure swap allowing players to transfer credits/cargo
Both players must accept the trade before it occurs
Acceptance must be redone by both parties after any change in the trade
Trading occurs in real-time and can be interrupted (for example by being attacked) unless taking place at a space dock
Either player can cancel the trade at any time up to the point both agree
To me it would seem a bit odd if players could not trade directly in a game with so much emphasis on trade.
The ability of players to transfer credits is a planned feature. It's in the design docs. Unless the devs state otherwise I consider it something that will be implemented.
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=6299
The relevant section:
Players can trade directly with each other
The player trade interface is available when both players are docked at the same market
The player trade interface is available when two players dock ships
The player trade interface is a secure swap allowing players to transfer credits/cargo
Both players must accept the trade before it occurs
Acceptance must be redone by both parties after any change in the trade
Trading occurs in real-time and can be interrupted (for example by being attacked) unless taking place at a space dock
Either player can cancel the trade at any time up to the point both agree
To me it would seem a bit odd if players could not trade directly in a game with so much emphasis on trade.
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That would definitely mean the advent of gold sellers. Direct player to player trade for credits/ingame high value items is the very basis upon which gold sellers build their empires.
SpiralRazor
Banned
This ^
You absolutely need those things in a modern space sim game. I dont much like EVE, but it works there just fine.
Keep in mind, as of tomorrow, the Big Harry's Monkey Hangout Palladium Cloud in Jotunheim is happening from 8pm GMT to 2am GMT. That is how you transfer money people. Like a shotgun! (See Palladium Cloud Announcement thread on this board for details)
Translation: "Dear FD, we are finding it difficult to click-farm with your game, please allow us to launder drug money"
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Sure - it can be fixed and again, I am not suggesting this as a HOWTO... Just that gold farmers already would have a viable mechanic in-game to deliver paid credits if there was demand. The increased difficulty of delivery just modifies the price of the credits they would be selling. But they're not here...
I argued that a number of factors would mean an unrealistic increase in price for which there is no market. This could change if it became much much harder to obtain credits, since demand among players would skyrocket. I think my arguments still stands and the current method of dropping cargo is far from viable as basis for a good business case for gold sellers..
The thing about the banhammer, they don't just ban the seller, they ban the buyer as well... if fact, it's the sudden influx of in-game currency that tips them off to it. They can easily check to see what type of transaction took place, know the difference between selling a ship and player2player transfer. Even on the "deleted" account, there's that whole IP addy/mac addy thing. The side argument there is "how often do they really get caught and do the make enough in sales to cover another copy of the game or new ISP?".
Needless to say, credit transfer between players is unnecessary. We have the goons dropping palladium all over a system for an event/trap.
Seriously though, what is so wrong with earning what you get?
Needless to say, credit transfer between players is unnecessary. We have the goons dropping palladium all over a system for an event/trap.
Seriously though, what is so wrong with earning what you get?
The sudden influx of in-game currency is what tips them of, you say. How could that be considered 'gold-selling' if FD made an actual system that would allow the transfer of in-game credits? You are basically saying that players would get banned just for using the in-game trade tools. I can guarantee you that there would be a plethora of big credit transfers that would be perfectly ok, reasonable and explainable. For example could be mentioned a player driven guild/clan/corporation. Imagine the leader of such corp distributing large sums of the corp credits to his most trusted lieutenants so that they may use it to further distribute downwards in their corp hierarchy to fund coordinated efforts? FD would have no way of knowing if this was a perfectly legal credit transfer or if it was in fact a gold seller.
I don't consider "oh no gold sellers! It will be baaad!!" to be a valid argument against a game feature as basic to a multiplayer game as player trading.
Seriously though, what is so wrong with a trader hiring an escort and not have to fiddle around dumping cargo to pay for it?
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"It might be misused" is not a good enough reason to not have it. I want to be able to give my brother money without having to spend ages buying an dumping cargo.
Players have so few ways to interact in the game already it's not even like someone buying a bunch of credits is going to change your personal game anyway.
Players have so few ways to interact in the game already it's not even like someone buying a bunch of credits is going to change your personal game anyway.
Good thing I didn't say "oh no gold sellers! It will be baaad!!" then. The question is whether we actually need credit transfers for the type of game ED is / will become in the future. I am not that sure we need it.