Needs it's own thread... RDR2 release date on PC

What is the best way of playing it? Classic R* 3rd person with semi-auto aim, or first person manual aim?
I am enjoying the latter in GTAV*, but somehow I feel the classic 3rd person provides a lot additional detail and that's how it is meant to be played.

The correct (albeit somewhat trite) answer is IMO "Whichever way you enjoy it most." 🤷‍♀️

*Stunning how great that game still is by today's standards.

Agreed. I'm not one of those clamouring for GTA VI, because GTA V was so far ahead of its time (and still is) that there's no need.
 
I actually enjoy gambling, but I wish they'd included the ability to smoke and order drinks at the table. Seems like an odd thing to omit.
 
The correct (albeit somewhat trite) answer is IMO "Whichever way you enjoy it most." 🤷‍♀️



Agreed. I'm not one of those clamouring for GTA VI, because GTA V was so far ahead of its time (and still is) that there's no need.

How you guys are playing it? :)

GTA V is very much far ahead of its time, but it is borderline criminal that no single player DLC was released for it. It could have fetched almost full game price, still would have been very popular.
I know, GTA Online and shar cards, still.

You can smoke and drink everywhere else in the game, so I don't think that's the reason.

So you can drink and smoke, but now while gambling?
BTW, oddly, one of things I enjoyed in RDR1 is playing various games in the pub with those hilarious characters in the middle of nowhere, especially during a thunderstorm at night - felt really cozy. :)
 
Easy way to avoid Epic...download the Rockstar launcher
As much as I loathe, hate and despise that 1GB POS launcher (2nd only to Exceptional ats Origin) I must also agree.

But know that their launcher has built in DRM/spyware which does sweep your entire SSD/HD for illegal mods for the online component. Apparently the directory setup they had on PC for GTAO failed miserably with how players could directly launch GTAO from their HDs. Which made it easy for hackers to use fake modded accounts, derivatives of the fiveM server mod, and other hacks that have destroyed the online game component on PC.

So if you have any single player modded Rockstar Games i.e GTA V and legacy games like GTA IV, SA, GTA VC etc. etc) which you independently launch on your HD, know the RGSC launcher can throw a PMS fit. And gift you with a pop up warning window that illegal files/hacks were detected on your system as you're about to go online. Also know that Rockstar CS/IT support is completely incompetent and/or severely back logged to date, so don't waste time trying to contact them if you get this. Just rename all your Rockstar Games folders to something else and/or complete remove the modded game .exe's from the directory which their launcher uses to launch RDR2.
 
How you guys are playing it? :)

GTA V is very much far ahead of its time, but it is borderline criminal that no single player DLC was released for it. It could have fetched almost full game price, still would have been very popular.
I know, GTA Online and shar cards, still.
I could go raging on about how the state of San Andreas was reduced from a THREE METROPOLITAN CITY aka Los Santos (Los Angeles), San Fierro (San Francisco), Las Venturas (Las Vegas) to A SINGLE FLIPPING ISLAND with ONE city aka Los Santos. And some SIX years later, the GTA V map IS STILL a flipping island.

You think the management --- after gouging billions in profit on GTAO and its drip feed DLC--would've seen the light. Got the dev team to introduce a DLC that added these much needed city areas back. Yet when the fan base tried to fix the game by adding this much needed content (in form of Liberty City mod) several years ago, Take Two lost their greedy E. Coli and shut the project down. What would've put GTA V back on the map where it was meant to be at release six years ago.

F#ck T*tty Two and the Rockstar execs for shafting and trolling the GTA fan base on this. RDR2 has been a redemption for sure. Question now is, will there be a repeat of GTAO with RDRO for PC given Rockstar's complete inability to check the black hat PC modders to date?
 
I could go raging on about how the state of San Andreas was reduced from a THREE METROPOLITAN CITY aka Los Santos (Los Angeles), San Fierro (San Francisco), Las Venturas (Las Vegas) to A SINGLE FLIPPING ISLAND with ONE city aka Los Santos. And some SIX years later, the GTA V map IS STILL a flipping island.

You think the management --- after gouging billions in profit on GTAO and its drip feed DLC--would've seen the light. Got the dev team to introduce a DLC that added these much needed city areas back. Yet when the fan base tried to fix the game by adding this much needed content (in form of Liberty City mod) several years ago, Take Two lost their greedy E. Coli and shut the project down. What would've put GTA V back on the map where it was meant to be at release six years ago.

F#ck T*tty Two and the Rockstar execs for shafting and trolling the GTA fan base on this. RDR2 has been a redemption for sure. Question now is, will there be a repeat of GTAO with RDRO for PC given Rockstar's complete inability to check the black hat PC modders to date?

Um... OK... :rolleyes:

GTA V is a really good game. I enjoy it.

RDR2 is also a really good game. I enjoy that as well.

Don't give a crap about "online". If I wanted "online" I'd play Fortnite, but since I'm not 15 years old, I don't. 🤷‍♀️
 
As a single player (like myself) you DO need to give a crap about the online component. Thanks to the billions in success R* has had with GTA V, the majority of software devs in the industry have made the online component the MAIN focus for their game title releases. i.e. release a MVP single player, bare bones game. Which has basically been cannibalized of the majority of features and meaninful content (which devs used to include in single player titles and/or DLC a decade earlier). Use the single player title as a $60 license key tutorial to wean the player into the online game component. Which btw, is where ALL the meaningful game content resides by means of overly expensive drip feed DLC. Which of course, can only be obtained behind a pay wall. Ever since R* began profiting handsomely from this, other AAA single player titles the likes of Bethesda have since jumped ship. This sort of skull duggery is why I as a single player, fear for the future release of AAA titles like TES 6 and Fallout 5. The industry software dev focus is NO LONGER on putting out a fully, well rounded single player game but its online component sibling. F76 and GTAO were perfect examples of that.
 
As a single player (like myself) you DO need to give a crap about the online component.
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Nope, I don't. 🤷‍♀️

I haven't bought FO76, and I can promise that I never will. Bought every other Fallout game though.

If TES 6 or Fallout 5 are online only, I won't buy them either.

Wouldn't have pledged for Elite if I'd known at the time it was going to be online-only, but that's another (longer) story.

Bottom line - I vote with my wallet. If games developers want a sale from me, they need to provide a good offline single player experience. Funnily enough, I'm not alone in this. So rather than moan about it, I just don't entertain them at all. Sooner or later they will get the message, because there's a lot of us out there.
 
Nope, I don't. 🤷‍♀️

I haven't bought FO76, and I can promise that I never will. Bought every other Fallout game though.

If TES 6 or Fallout 5 are online only, I won't buy them either.

Wouldn't have pledged for Elite if I'd known at the time it was going to be online-only, but that's another (longer) story.

Bottom line - I vote with my wallet. If games developers want a sale from me, they need to provide a good offline single player experience. Funnily enough, I'm not alone in this. So rather than moan about it, I just don't entertain them at all. Sooner or later they will get the message, because there's a lot of us out there.
Amen to that :)
 
I adore the concept of an online version of a game such as GTAV or RDR2, though I rarely partake due to rl scheduling concerns. I think that it's awesome for the overall health of the game, though, and that it's pretty cool that other people derive enjoyment out of it.
 
As a single player (like myself) you DO need to give a crap about the online component. Thanks to the billions in success R* has had with GTA V, the majority of software devs in the industry have made the online component the MAIN focus for their game title releases. i.e. release a MVP single player, bare bones game. Which has basically been cannibalized of the majority of features and meaninful content (which devs used to include in single player titles and/or DLC a decade earlier). Use the single player title as a $60 license key tutorial to wean the player into the online game component. Which btw, is where ALL the meaningful game content resides by means of overly expensive drip feed DLC. Which of course, can only be obtained behind a pay wall. Ever since R* began profiting handsomely from this, other AAA single player titles the likes of Bethesda have since jumped ship. This sort of skull duggery is why I as a single player, fear for the future release of AAA titles like TES 6 and Fallout 5. The industry software dev focus is NO LONGER on putting out a fully, well rounded single player game but its online component sibling. F76 and GTAO were perfect examples of that.
The key difference(s) with Rockstar and Bethesda is that even "bare bones" Rockstar's offerings far surpass Bethesda's games in terms of quality and content. You really can't make an argument that GTAV single-player is somehow shafting the consumer and be taken seriously, much less RDR2.
 
I know I sound like a broken record with this, but I can't praise Rockstar enough for how they relate the experience of talking to, riding and caring for your horse. I've never played another open world game where I took so much pleasure in slowly ambling from point A to point B, and the little random adventures that pop up (plus campsites that seem completely random as far as I can tell that disappear from one day to the next) are more fun than most games' main story arc.
I got my first horse (not the starter one) called it Dilbert and bonded with it. As yours, not a fast or strong horse, but MY horse. Then I walked in on two outlaws mugging a farmer who without a 'how do you do' shot Dilbert dead the moment they spotted me.

I was actually genuinly real life shocked and pee-ed off about it.
 
I got my first horse (not the starter one) called it Dilbert and bonded with it. As yours, not a fast or strong horse, but MY horse. Then I walked in on two outlaws mugging a farmer who without a 'how do you do' shot Dilbert dead the moment they spotted me.

I was actually genuinly real life shocked and pee-ed off about it.

Alas poor Dilbert... I hope you reloaded a previous save. 😢

This is why if I see something going on, I don't approach on horseback. I "park" Betsy outside of the bubble, and make the rest of the way on foot.
 
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