Well playing efficiently means you will be bored quicker, so you will complain sooner, (according to Pesisk) and this is what Pesisk really despises....people on the forums speaking their minds about where the game has problems. You see, it is not shallow if you play inefficiently. It is not boring if you stretch the tedium of running massive quantities of credit grind out with even more tedious fishing trips. It is a wonderfully deep and long lasting game if you only replace your outfitting a piece at a time and figure out the perfect loadout for you. The time in game flies by, when you have to listen to scratchy incomplete sentences with the in game comms...oh, and the fun of trying to get that immersive connection to work in the first place...heaven!
NO to "third party tools" for ED
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Well playing efficiently means you will be bored quicker, so you will complain sooner, (according to Pesisk) and this is what Pesisk really despises....people on the forums speaking their minds about where the game has problems. You see, it is not shallow if you play inefficiently. It is not boring if you stretch the tedium of running massive quantities of credit grind out with even more tedious fishing trips. It is a wonderfully deep and long lasting game if you only replace your outfitting a piece at a time and figure out the perfect loadout for you. The time in game flies by, when you have to listen to scratchy incomplete sentences with the in game comms...oh, and the fun of trying to get that immersive connection to work in the first place...heaven!
Being efficient for some people, such as myself, is part of the fun. I like to be efficient in everything I do. Its in my core. Also, being efficient certainly does not mean you will be bored quicker, that's a terribly unfounded presumption. Being efficient just means a change in workflow to allow for your processes to be more streamlined. To me, that increases the 'fun rate' in anything I do.
I would also bet the farm that you and the OP himself uses methods and "tips and tricks" from within this game to play more efficiently. And since you are on these forums (alot it seems), You have no doubt gathered information from here that has helped you or inspired you to play aspects of this game differently than before.
Where do you draw the line?
It's your game, play it your way. Nuff said..
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Technically Sweet fx , Reshade, Gem FX, and EDFX are all 3rd party tools. It would be ridiculous to not allow 3rd party tools. Seriously add Sweet fx play for a week then try to go back to the bland color saturation and effects. It's bad enough I can't take 4k screen shots that show post processing effects. You have these awesome shots that should look amazing then you realize that it will look completely different so you toggle it and that awesome shot turns into something super bland and unmagnificent .
To be fair I love this game and i'm not calling it out by saying all the effects are bland but trust me. Add sweet fx and it's a night and day difference. Nor is it the devs fault because pretty much every game I have ever played can be made 1000x better with SweetFx/ other post processing effects
To be fair I love this game and i'm not calling it out by saying all the effects are bland but trust me. Add sweet fx and it's a night and day difference. Nor is it the devs fault because pretty much every game I have ever played can be made 1000x better with SweetFx/ other post processing effects
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I just roll down the window and ask the guy in the next dock over "Hey buddy - you know where I can get a good price on some performance enhancers?". Sometime the answer comes back: "Your mom!"
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Thats real trade data, right there....
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Thats real trade data, right there....
I use the TCE but only with the data I collect. I don't use data collected by other people but that is my choice.
No doubt you would agree that TCE should be an in game feature ...
Personally I'm livid that it's not, I'd love to find who is responsible for the lackluster in game design... and force them to play only using in game tools until they can a spec an Anaconda ... I'd expect they would be a drooling mess in the end ..
Hahahaha.
i cant remember using third party tools for any game ever.
I got some off the radar 'good stuff' from a chap I met in an ally to sprinkle on mine. I'll put it in an envelope and send it up the chimney to you... just dont tell your address.
You cared enough for it to cause you to type out and post all that guff that I snipped.
Why not just go the whole hog and use Cheat Engine?
If there was no intergalactic Google, like in the game, you would have no choice but to do so - unless you started "metagaming" (the preferred euphemism for cheating).
Begs the question of why there isn't an intergalactic Google...big market opportunity being missed, it'd put any of the other mega-corps to shame.
Since you can't actually 'win' this game, is it even possible to cheat?
If it's fun, do it, if it isn't, don't.
If it's fun, do it, if it isn't, don't.
I agree with this. I bought the game to play and have fun, not to sit there scribbling notes. I bought a HOTAS to maximise time with my hands on the controls of the ship...
EDDiscovery is another example. It simply logs where you have been and maps it. This *should* be in the game.
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I sit in the middle group methinks
I like to figure out my own trade routes using the tools provided in game, the idea of just looking one up on like feels like looking put the answers to a puzzle in a walk through.
It doesn't bother me other people using it.
When it was first released it was sad to watch some people on you tube incapable of trading without it, to the even common sense level of complaining wihtout it how could they know to bring farm machinery to argi-worlds
But I like the Shipyard tool to plan out ships, or to look at this forum to have a look at Community Goals before I travel to them myself.
I use voice attack but it is actually slower than manually inputting commands in most cases as you can control the timing of you button pushes better than when you say something have the computer pick it up then input the command.
I also use a HOTAS vs pure keyboard commands, which I guess compared to BR is using a third party tool for control.
I like to figure out my own trade routes using the tools provided in game, the idea of just looking one up on like feels like looking put the answers to a puzzle in a walk through.
It doesn't bother me other people using it.
When it was first released it was sad to watch some people on you tube incapable of trading without it, to the even common sense level of complaining wihtout it how could they know to bring farm machinery to argi-worlds
But I like the Shipyard tool to plan out ships, or to look at this forum to have a look at Community Goals before I travel to them myself.
I use voice attack but it is actually slower than manually inputting commands in most cases as you can control the timing of you button pushes better than when you say something have the computer pick it up then input the command.
I also use a HOTAS vs pure keyboard commands, which I guess compared to BR is using a third party tool for control.
I would re-read my post with a sarcasm filter turned off.
As far as what I use for 'tips and tricks'? I'll let you figure that out yourself. What I can tell you is this....I don't give a flying truck what anyone does to play this game. It's just like 'Who's Line Is It, Anyway?" where everything is made up and the points don't matter. Enjoy the game your way...whatever way that is!
[video]http://www.cwseed.com/shows/whose-line-is-it-anyway/brad-sherwood/?play=500111c0-23ec-46ca-9fc7-aeffcc285404[/video]
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I suddenly realized that no one talks about (what I believe is the) elephant in a room and that is "third party tools" (that I believe are being) used by players for every game they play - (I suspect to) "to maximize gains".
I just wanted to say that in my opinion that this is what in long term destroys gaming as enjoyable pass time and moves into obsession driven sugar rush madness. (I believe) It's addictive, because tools and min/max attitude enables you win. In the end, (I believe) all you wanna do is win, which (I think) leads to grind. (I believe) Grind leads to disappointment because (I think) at some point you figure out that all you do is grind.
I realize that everyone plays game they want to play and it is not for me to educate how to do it. I just wanted to say that there are people not using tools. They are certainly read things, and hear tips and notes. However it mostly goes out in ad hoc fashion.
(I think you should) So say NO to third party tools. (I think you should) Stick with your guns and instinct. Ask if stuck and read tips from other forumians. But (I think you shouldn't) engage in mass exploitation of shared information. If you want to find that outfit that works for you - find it. (I'm under the impression, and don't think you should) obsess with configurations given you by third party sites.
- Valid opinion received, thank you for your thoughts
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Your point?
Poor argument, OP; more a simple statement of opinion. There is no elephant present - just different ways of playing.
The players who use third-party tools often do so to expand and deepen their understanding of the game mechanics and broaden their own play-styles - in their own way, for their own entertainment. Others are simply motivated by increasing profits, making the necessary grind a little easier. Some do want to min-max, and 'win'. So what? Leave them to it.
If you don't want to use 3rd party programs/tools, fine by me. For me though, that's like never looking under your car's bonnet. You know there's an engine in there (maybe not, it could be magic), but don't care to see how the engine looks, works or could be made better.
Overall an odd viewpoint from a likely Linux user (judging by your sig - in my experience, always tinkering, improving and replacing bits with other open-sourced code). By your rationale, we should all use Windows and ignore any other, possibly superior options.
@Ben Ryder - all flying on keyboard? Are you insane, man? Kudos for hard mode, but borrow a decent joystick and feel the ship come to life. Its much more intuitive (and realistic). KB is no way to pilot a <insert your current ship here>... your poor hands will thank you too!
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