Planet Zoo 2 Speculation and ideas

SanRazo

SanRazo
I think most animals will be back, again look at pc2 only a couple rides from the first aren’t in and they’re being bundled in dlc with new rides. The scenery is what looks like definitely won’t be in the base game
 

Swjosdotschka

Swjosdotschka
yoav_r said:
Question to all. Say you design the base game roster of PZ2 with a 100 habitat animals, you can only add up to 10 new habitat species, and port the rest habitat animals from PZ to PZ2 basegame. Which 100 animals do you pick for the PZ2 base game?

Assume if it's an older model from PZ it gets updated to the current model standard.
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  1. African Crested Porcupine
  2. African Elephant
  3. African Penguin
  4. African Wild Dog
  5. Aldabra Giant Tortoise
  6. American Alligator
  7. American Bison
  8. Leopard
  9. Arctic Fox
  10. Wolf
  11. Asian Small-Clawed Otter
  12. Asian Water Monitor
  13. Bactrian Camel
  14. Baird's Tapir
  15. Bengal Tiger
  16. Binturong
  17. Black Rhinoceros
  18. Black-Tailed Prairie Dog
  19. Blue Wilderbeest
  20. Bongo
  21. Bonobo
  22. Borneo Orang Utan
  23. California Sea Lion
  24. Capybara
  25. Cheetah
  26. Collard Peccary
  27. Capuchhin Monkey
  28. Ostrich
  29. Curvier's Dwarf Caiman
  30. Stork
  31. Dromedary Camel
  32. Emu
  33. Badger
  34. Black Bear
  35. Galapagos Giant Tortoise
  36. Gharial
  37. Giant Anteater
  38. Giant Panda
  39. Flamingo
  40. Walrus
  41. Brown Bear
  42. Hippopotamus
  43. Indian Elephant
  44. Indian Peafowl
  45. Indian Rhino
  46. Jaguar
  47. Baboon
  48. King Penguin
  49. Koala
  50. Komodo Dragon
  51. Lar Gibbon
  52. Eagle
  53. Malayan Tapir
  54. Mandrill
  55. Maned Wolf
  56. Meerkat
  57. Mute Swan
  58. Nine-Banded Armadillo
  59. Nutria
  60. Macaw
  61. Nyala
  62. Okapi
  63. Zebra
  64. Polar Bear
  65. Pygmy Hippopotamus
  66. Racoon
  67. Red Fox
  68. Red Kangaroo
  69. Red Panda
  70. Red River Hog
  71. Red Ruffed Lemur
  72. Crane
  73. Red-Necked Wallaby
  74. Reindeer
  75. Reticulated Giraffe
  76. Ring-Tailed Lemur
  77. Sable Antelope
  78. Saiga
  79. Saltwater Crocodile
  80. Scimitar-Horned Oryx
  81. Siamang
  82. Siberian Tiger
  83. Sloth Bear
  84. Snow Leopard
  85. Tanuki
  86. Spectacled Caiman
  87. Spotted Hyena
  88. Springbok
  89. Striped Skunk
  90. Tasmanian Devil
  91. Another Wolf
  92. Lion
  93. Western Chimpanzee
  94. Western Lowland Gorilla
  95. Wild Boar
  96. Wisent
  97. Add Flying bird of your choice here
  98. Add flying bird of your choice here
  99. Add flying bird of your choice here
  100. Add flying bird of your choice here

As most of you know by now, I'm not good with birds, so I stayed away from filling in most of the bird slots.

Now, this was fun, but I feel this list is in no way realistic. Too many very popular animals that just need to sell DLCs.
With some species I changed the name to something more generic, hope that doesn't count as changing the animals.

Also: I'm sorry antilope lovers, but they were just overkill.
 

RightWhale

RightWhale
Marvinb said:
I just wish us reptile, bird and primates people will be treated a little better
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TheYeti said:
Meanwhile fish people
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These things are gonna define if I get PZ2 when it comes out. Will it probably have new and amazing stuff? Most definitely, especially based on the PC2 building.

But after a couple years of modding PZ2 needs better diversity than what mods can provide me for PZ1. Considering how badly I just got burned out by Frontier the sequel needs new animals.

I like PZ building, but I’m here for the animals. I don’t care if the new building features are amazing, I need good animals. I am not excited about the idea that for a future PZ2 I may wait a very long time for some of the animals I want, if I get them. I’m not excited thinking about how Frontier might just make DLCs in the same style as PZ1. Overly mammal heavy, and everything else fights for the last 2 spots if they are lucky. That’s not assuming birds come in some sort of aviary exhibit system (WTE has failed me in that regard), would that mean I might not get good habitat birds? Or does that mean I have to wait forever for exhibits to have fish, reptiles, amphibians, and invertebrates?

I’m feeling pessimistic, but if Frontier wants more of my money for a sequel it needs to be better from the start. Now with mods getting better and better, the sequel needs amazing animals for me to jump ship.
 
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Angeł

Angeł
Angeł’s PZ2 Base Game roster (+ Deluxe)

DISCLAIMER: I know a lot of headliners a missing. That’s the point. A lot of DLCs can be made and sold by keeping back some of the more important / interesting animals. So I tried to imagine which would be held back next time around. Polar Bears, Orangutans, Chimps, Ring Tail Lemurs, Komodo Dragons, Sea Lions, Pygmy Hippos and MANY more that are missing could help create some DLCs that don’t feel like rip offs from the first game.)

Base Game: Planet Zoo 2
Habitat:
  1. Aardvark
  2. African Bush Elephant
  3. African Dwarf Crocodile
  4. African Leopard
  5. African Penguin
  6. African Spurred Tortoise
  7. Alpine Ibex
  8. American Flamingo
  9. American Plains Bison
  10. Amur Tiger
  11. Asian Small Clawed Otter
  12. Asian Water Monitor
  13. Asiatic Black Bear
  14. Asiatic Lion
  15. Bactrian Camel
  16. Black Capped Squirrel Monkey
  17. Black and White Ruffed Lemur
  18. Blue Wildebeest
  19. Brazilian Tapir
  20. Cape Buffalo
  21. Chinese Pangolin
  22. Collared Peccary
  23. Common Hippopotamus
  24. Common Impala
  25. Common Ostrich
  26. Common Warthog
  27. Common Wombat
  28. Defassa Waterbuck
  29. Emu
  30. Eurasian Brown Bear
  31. Eurasian Wolf
  32. European Fallow Deer
  33. Galapagos Giant Tortoise
  34. Gemsbok
  35. Gharial
  36. Giant Panda
  37. Greater Kudu
  38. Grey Seal
  39. Grévy’s Zebra
  40. Grizzly Bear
  41. Indian Elephant
  42. Indian Peafowl
  43. Indian Rhinoceros
  44. Japanese Macaque
  45. Linnaeus’ Two Toed Sloth
  46. Lion Tailed Macaque
  47. Malayan Tapir
  48. Mandrill
  49. Mountain Bongo
  50. Nile Crocodile
  51. Northwestern Wolf
  52. Plains Zebra
  53. Przewalski’s Horse
  54. Raccoon
  55. Red Deer
  56. Red Necked Wallaby
  57. Red River Hog
  58. Red Ruffed Lemur
  59. Reticulated Giraffe
  60. Scimitar Horned Oryx
  61. Sloth Bear
  62. Southern White Rhinoceros
  63. Spectacled Bear
  64. Spectacled Caiman
  65. Spotted Hyena
  66. Striped Skunk
  67. Sumatran Tiger
  68. Thompson’s Gazelle
  69. Transvaal Lion
  70. Tufted Capuchin
  71. Visayan Warty Pig
  72. Water Buffalo
  73. Western Lowland Gorilla
  74. Wisent
  75. Wolverine
Aviary:
  1. Black Capped Lory
  2. Blue and Yellow Macaw
  3. Budgerigar
  4. Common Barn Owl
  5. Dusky Lory
  6. Egyptian Fruit Bat
  7. Eurasian Eagle Owl
  8. Golden Eagle
  9. Gouldian Finch
  10. Great Hornbill
  11. Harpy Eagle
  12. Keel Billed Toucan
  13. Major Mitchell’s Cockatoo
  14. Military Macaw
  15. Rainbow Lorikeet
  16. Rodrigues Flying Fox
  17. Peregrine Falcon
  18. Scarlet Macaw
  19. Sulphur Crested Cockatoo
  20. Toco Toucan
Exhibit:
  1. Amazonian Giant Centipede
  2. American Bullfrog
  3. Axolotl
  4. Blue Poison Dart Frog
  5. Chinese Giant Salamander
  6. Chinese Mantis
  7. Cobalt Blue Tarantula
  8. Common Huntsman
  9. Desert Horned Viper
  10. Eastern Brown Snake
  11. Emerald Tree Boa
  12. Emperor Scorpion
  13. Giant African Land Snail
  14. Giant Desert Hairy Scorpion
  15. Giant Malaysian Leaf Insect
  16. Giant Prickly Stick Insect
  17. Gila Monster
  18. Goliath Bird Eating Spider
  19. Green Anaconda
  20. Green Iguana
  21. Hercules Beetle
  22. Inland Taipan
  23. Madagascan Hissing Cockroach
  24. Mexican Red Knee Tarantula
  25. Northern Caiman Lizard
  26. Phantasmal Poison Dart Frog
  27. Red Eyed Tree Frog
  28. Reticulated Python
  29. Rhinoceros Iguana
  30. Western Diamondback Rattlesnake

DLC: Deluxe Edition
Habitat:
  1. Blackbuck
  2. Gelada
  3. South American Coati
Aviary:
  1. Blue Throated Macaw
Exhibit:
  1. King Cobra
 

SanRazo

SanRazo
I wrote this in @Captain Callum thread and it made me realize how much I miss this from zoo tycoon 2 and I hope we get in pz2 what do you guys think about this idea?:

Better more active and alive challenges in franchise mode

Make challenges similar to zoo tycoon 2 where they’re more active and have a slight story to them. For example: in zoo tycoon 2 randomly an earthquake would hit your zoo and you’d have to redo all your barriers and repair your zoo, your employees would go on strike and you’d have to resolve with less employees for a little while and help out yourself until they came back, celebrities would visit your zoo and you had to make sure they were happy and you got pictures for marketing, you were approached by magazines for marketing photos and you get them for added boost to your zoos fame, another zoo contacts you about trading animals for a while so you have to rush and create a new habitat for a species and you lose one of your animals for a little bit, there’s a animal rescued and you have to house it and care for it for an allotted time and maybe you keep it, there’s a famous dolphin that you have to make sure is happy when you get her for an added boost of attendance and fame if you don’t you lose her and it’s negative for your zoo. All these active challenges could just spring up and you choose to accept or decline most of them (the earthquake one you couldn’t decline) these were added alongside more passive challenges like donation goals, building a tour ride, etc. these make your zoo feel more alive and keep franchise distinct from sandbox, I miss this aspect from zoo tycoon 2 more than any other feature so please planet zoo 2 bring it back.
 

Birb（｡･ө･｡）

Birb（｡･ө･｡）
Reading some of these list choices kinda pains me lol

There are so many DLC species I can live without for a while, but if I have to wait years to get my most essential animal (the fruit bird) again I will explode into a billion little pieces.

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RightWhale

RightWhale
Birb（｡･ө･｡） said:
Reading some of these list choices kinda pains me lol

There are so many DLC species I can live without for a while, but if I have to wait years to get my most essential animal (the fruit bird) again I will explode into a billion little pieces.

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I don’t even want to imagine how long it would take me to get a duck, or even if I can get a white faced whistling duck.

Honestly makes me less excited for a sequel. That’s on top of will Frontier ditch the current dlc roster system? Do I have to wait 3-4 months to maybe get 1 bird each time? If we get aviaries will the aviary bird just replace exhibit animals? In that case do I have to wait for habitat birds and basic exhibit animals?

Not fun to think about.
 

Swjosdotschka

Swjosdotschka
SanRazo said:
I think most animals will be back, again look at pc2 only a couple rides from the first aren’t in and they’re being bundled in dlc with new rides. The scenery is what looks like definitely won’t be in the base game
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Honestly, that's what gets me the most with Planet Coaster. Soooo little themes. I know it wasn't much better in Planet Zoo at first, but oh boy, it's gonna be tough.
 

Birb（｡･ө･｡）

Birb（｡･ө･｡）
Swjosdotschka said:
What is a fruit bird? When I google it, I just find 10000 fruit eating bird but no fruit bird species...
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As others have mentioned, yeah I’m referring to the kiwi lol. My favorite little freak, a solid addition to my NA zoos, and Aotearoa’s most essential species <3

I’d trade almost the entirety of Arid and Eurasia just to have these boogers back in a sequel’s base game ngl
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Swjosdotschka

Swjosdotschka
Oh, it was a pun... okay.

Well, I got it on my base game list, if I remember correctly.
Would be interesting to see some stats on how often which animal in game was build so far. From there we could make an educated guess on what they save for later.
 

Antimony96

Antimony96
yoav_r said:
Question to all. Say you design the base game roster of PZ2 with a 100 habitat animals, you can only add up to 10 new habitat species, and port the rest habitat animals from PZ to PZ2 basegame. Which 100 animals do you pick for the PZ2 base game?

Assume if it's an older model from PZ it gets updated to the current model standard.
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Let me take a crack here. Cheating a bit by tweaking some of the current animals into very similar equivalents (within the same species).

1. African lion
2. Sumatran tiger
3. Amur tiger
4. Amur leopard
5. Snow leopard
6. Jaguar
7. Cougar
8. Cheetah
9. Eurasian lynx
10. Spotted hyena
11. Meerkat
12. Gray wolf
13. Fennec fox
14. Red fox
15. African painted dog
16. Grizzly bear
17. Eurasian brown bear
18. American black bear
19. Asiatic black bear
20. Giant panda
21. Himalayan red panda
22. California sea lion
23. Gray seal
24. Asian small-clawed otter
25. Giant otter
26. Raccoon
27. Striped skunk
28. Common hippopotamus
29. Pygmy hippopotamus
30. Warthog
31. Red river hog
32. North Sulawesi babirusa
33. Red deer
34. Fallow deer
35. Reindeer
36. Moose
37. Dromedary camel
38. Bactrian camel
39. Llama
40. Alpaca
41. Highland cow
42. Plains bison
43. Wisent
44. Blue wildebeest
45. Bongo
46. Nyala
47. Thomson's gazelle
48. Scimitar oryx
49. Addax
50. Alpine ibex
51. Nubian goat
52. Markhor
53. Reticulated giraffe
54. Okapi
55. Burchell's zebra
56. Przewalski's horse
57. Southern white rhinoceros
58. Black rhinoceros
59. Malayan tapir
60. Western lowland gorilla
61. Common chimpanzee
62. Bornean orangutan
63. Lar gibbon
64. Japanese macaque
65. Mandrill
66. Hamadryas baboon
67. Mantled guereza
68. White-faced capuchin
69. Golden lion tamarin
70. Geoffroy's spider monkey
71. Ring-tailed lemur
72. Red ruffed lemur
73. Black and white ruffed lemur
74. Capybara
75. African crested porcupine
76. Black-tailed prairie dog
77. African bush elephant
78. Indian elephant
79. Aardvark
80. Giant anteater
81. Red kangaroo
82. Koala
83. Common ostrich
84. Emu
85. Southern cassowary
86. King penguin
87. African penguin
88. American flamingo
89. Blue peafowl
90. Golden pheasant
91. Mute swan
92. Bar-headed goose
93. Mandarin duck
94. Red crowned crane
95. White stork
96. American alligator
97. Nile crocodile
98. Galapagos giant tortoise
99. Aldabra giant tortoise
100. Komodo dragon
 

Angeł

Angeł
Antimony96 said:
Let me take a crack here. Cheating a bit by tweaking some of the current animals into very similar equivalents (within the same species).

1. African lion
2. Sumatran tiger
3. Amur tiger
4. Amur leopard
5. Snow leopard
6. Jaguar
7. Cougar
8. Cheetah
9. Eurasian lynx
10. Spotted hyena
11. Meerkat
12. Gray wolf
13. Fennec fox
14. Red fox
15. African painted dog
16. Grizzly bear
17. Eurasian brown bear
18. American black bear
19. Asiatic black bear
20. Giant panda
21. Himalayan red panda
22. California sea lion
23. Gray seal
24. Asian small-clawed otter
25. Giant otter
26. Raccoon
27. Striped skunk
28. Common hippopotamus
29. Pygmy hippopotamus
30. Warthog
31. Red river hog
32. North Sulawesi babirusa
33. Red deer
34. Fallow deer
35. Reindeer
36. Moose
37. Dromedary camel
38. Bactrian camel
39. Llama
40. Alpaca
41. Highland cow
42. Plains bison
43. Wisent
44. Blue wildebeest
45. Bongo
46. Nyala
47. Thomson's gazelle
48. Scimitar oryx
49. Addax
50. Alpine ibex
51. Nubian goat
52. Markhor
53. Reticulated giraffe
54. Okapi
55. Burchell's zebra
56. Przewalski's horse
57. Southern white rhinoceros
58. Black rhinoceros
59. Malayan tapir
60. Western lowland gorilla
61. Common chimpanzee
62. Bornean orangutan
63. Lar gibbon
64. Japanese macaque
65. Mandrill
66. Hamadryas baboon
67. Mantled guereza
68. White-faced capuchin
69. Golden lion tamarin
70. Geoffroy's spider monkey
71. Ring-tailed lemur
72. Red ruffed lemur
73. Black and white ruffed lemur
74. Capybara
75. African crested porcupine
76. Black-tailed prairie dog
77. African bush elephant
78. Indian elephant
79. Aardvark
80. Giant anteater
81. Red kangaroo
82. Koala
83. Common ostrich
84. Emu
85. Southern cassowary
86. King penguin
87. African penguin
88. American flamingo
89. Blue peafowl
90. Golden pheasant
91. Mute swan
92. Bar-headed goose
93. Mandarin duck
94. Red crowned crane
95. White stork
96. American alligator
97. Nile crocodile
98. Galapagos giant tortoise
99. Aldabra giant tortoise
100. Komodo dragon
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To be fair, this might be the most brilliant starting roster. I would SLAM my money down for this.
I know that a few of the bigger names from the base game will likely be kept back for later DLC but I could dream about this roster!
 

NZFanatic

NZFanatic
Swjosdotschka said:
I'm pro better OrangUtan fur (and will download a replacement mod for PZ 1 soon), but don't you touch my faboulous North American roster.
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I infamously do not care about North American animals in the game. 😅

I think the only ones I use semi-regularly are the prairie dog (small filler species) and the American bison. I love sea lions but the off-scaling of the male is extremely off-putting to me so I stick to the grey seal. Oh, and the skunk, I use that a fair bit. The rest might as well not exist.

That said, it was just a joke, but in all seriousness I would be absolutely gutted if we get the sequel and it still has the same orangutan and the same lion just with slightly better fur textures. I'm fine with repurchasing a big chunk of the roster if it means the older animals are getting makeovers.
 

random goat

random goat
Villanelle said:
Has this been discussed yet - should we set up a metawishlist for PZ2 features we'd like to see?

It seems timing is key with these wishlists because it looks like Frontier used the very first metawishlist to influence the animals they picked, but possibly not later versions. If they're starting work on the game now it might be a good time to combine and order all our hopes and dreams for new features, with the hope that it might have an impact on how they design the game and what they prioritise early on?

What do you all think?
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I shouldn't say this myself but I think it's pretty obvious that the meta-wishlist has indeed heavily influenced animal picks in the DLCs.

If there was one thing I hated about the state of the forum on the months before PZ released and the year after is that literally every user would post their random animal wishlist in random threads, making them completely sterile. So yes, a meta-wishlist for PZ2 is something very needed if you ask me.

Am I the right person to host it and keep it updated? Hell no, sorry. As one gets older, life and work commitments take over more and more time (blame academia I guess).
In fact, I think it shouldn't be a personal project but more so a collaborative one, as it's a very demanding task. Especially because I reckon an initial meta-wishlist would ask for 150 base-game animals? Somewhere around that amount.
Perhaps some sort of polling system would be an option, but I don't think any poll would allow that level of flexibility. Cause how many animals would you include? It would be sensible to include flying birds and aquatic animals for this one, I guess, so: 1000? That would probably not be enough and wouldn't be convenient either.
 
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