dont forget paying for the dlcs too, you are for sure not the only one
Planet Zoo 2 Speculation and ideas
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If that’s what PZ2 ends up being, I’d just laugh and never look at it again. No offense to your choices (you probably wouldn’t agree with mine either) but if it’s anything even remotely like that, I wouldn’t even bother checking the updates
I’d take it you only care about cat clones and farm animals then...
Nice, probably would not touch your version with a stick either, lol full of 100% clones, don’t need 10 tigers
So you would not have bought the first game if the following animals were not in it: Aldabra giant tortoise, bonobo, bengal tiger, red ruffed lemur, H brown bear, nyala, black wildebeast, formosan black bear.
As those are the only animals I didn’t include from the main first game, strange animals to ignore an entire game for
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I think the barnyard roster being in PZ2's base game (or being added later for free) would remove a lot of controversy from those animals. It'd also let players make petting zoos without having to re-pay for DLC
Don't worry, that would only allow them to make a second barnyard pack with new breeds to sell us again
...I woudn't mind another return to domestics, you know guinea pig, muscovy duck, mallard and domestic rabbit would be banger additions.
Just saying.
Just saying.
Yeah.. but that's not what we would get we know that.
There are some domestics i would be ok with having a place in the roster:
- Highland cow (remastered version)
- Zebu
- Ankole wattusi
- Longhorn cattle
- Domestic yak
- Shetlands ponny
- Icelandic horse
- Clydesdale horse
- Mustang or Arabian horse
- Flemish giant rabbit
- Lop-eared rabbit
- Chinchilla
- Guinea pig
- African pygmy goat
- Chinese grey goose
- African goose
- Muscovy duck
- Mallard duck
- Indian runner duck
- Helmeted guineafowl
- Domestic turkey
But not all at once in one pack nor do i need all of those
I would very much consider not buying PZ2 if the base roster didn’t have clones.
Because if it doesn’t, I know they’ll plan on selling them as DLC. Which I really can’t be bothered to go through all over again.
Sure SOME clones in DLC is fine. But I think the base roster SHOULD be padded with a tonne of clones.
Grizzly and Eurasian Brown Bear
Amur and Bengal and/or Sumatran Tiger
Amur and African and/or Persian Leopard
African and Asiatic Lion
Eurasian and Northwestern Wolf
European and American Bison
American and Greater Flamingo
Just a few examples that I think should be in base game. All are really valuable animals and add something different from their counterparts, but to some members on here would be seen as ‘clones’. Therefore, I think to please everyone, they should be in the base game. So no one moans that they're ‘clogging up’ DLC, but that they make it into the game anyway.
Same goes for domestics. They absolutely should be in the game, but considering their last reception, I’m scared for them.
Maybe a Deluxe DLC (a la Planet Coaster 2’s Vintage Funfair Pack) at the same time as Base Game release would be the best way to include them. Nobody’s waiting a long time for them, but they don’t take up slots in the base game, and those that don’t want them don’t have to pay.
Because if it doesn’t, I know they’ll plan on selling them as DLC. Which I really can’t be bothered to go through all over again.
Sure SOME clones in DLC is fine. But I think the base roster SHOULD be padded with a tonne of clones.
Grizzly and Eurasian Brown Bear
Amur and Bengal and/or Sumatran Tiger
Amur and African and/or Persian Leopard
African and Asiatic Lion
Eurasian and Northwestern Wolf
European and American Bison
American and Greater Flamingo
Just a few examples that I think should be in base game. All are really valuable animals and add something different from their counterparts, but to some members on here would be seen as ‘clones’. Therefore, I think to please everyone, they should be in the base game. So no one moans that they're ‘clogging up’ DLC, but that they make it into the game anyway.
Same goes for domestics. They absolutely should be in the game, but considering their last reception, I’m scared for them.
Maybe a Deluxe DLC (a la Planet Coaster 2’s Vintage Funfair Pack) at the same time as Base Game release would be the best way to include them. Nobody’s waiting a long time for them, but they don’t take up slots in the base game, and those that don’t want them don’t have to pay.
Yes,but please make better choices then, like potbelly pig, mallard duck, giant rabbit, shedland pony and other such animals, not the silly goat, sheep, pig and donkey they have picked...
Lol, i'm sure like Jurassic World Evolution 3, the roster of Planet Zoo 2 will only have around 80 animals, if the clones YOU want take up spots from that roster, I will not even buy the game. You rather have some 100% clone copies instead of different looking, behaving animals. I will never understand this wish behavior, never.
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So here’s what apart of me thinks
Aviary’s or bust.
Big aviaries, think placeable like JWE2 but not needed to be as big.
Small aviaries, think the small ones from prehistoric kingdom.
a large variety of birds for both
A bunch of new ground and wadding birds that won’t warrant an aviary.
Petting zoos maybe reworked to be a little bit more under control and may be kept for a dlc
Exhbit overhaul
This time, allow small mammals that are too small to warrent habitats.
Have the critters move around and climb around.
Separate small, medium and large exhibits for critters of appropriate size.
The ambient noise system now helps calm animals or silence guest noise.
Underwater viewing windows. No more making ground over a window just to make it visible.
Education overhaul.
Transform the education talks and seating into stages. Even allow the educators to have a stand inside the habitat or just not on a guest path. Raptors and education birds can be on the educators arms. Guided tours don’t suck the life out of educators and they can schedule what time of the year tours arrive. Also educators have a room where they can do online media presence to help with marketing.
Golf carts for employees to move around quicker.
Security guards can now staff a guard in a security room kinda like how vets use the research room.
So it seems there’s a good amount of content that would be good for launch but also for dlc
Aviaries, new exhibits at launch
Updates will get us
Petting zoo +
Employee boosts
Gift shops
Aviary’s or bust.
Big aviaries, think placeable like JWE2 but not needed to be as big.
Small aviaries, think the small ones from prehistoric kingdom.
a large variety of birds for both
A bunch of new ground and wadding birds that won’t warrant an aviary.
Petting zoos maybe reworked to be a little bit more under control and may be kept for a dlc
Exhbit overhaul
This time, allow small mammals that are too small to warrent habitats.
Have the critters move around and climb around.
Separate small, medium and large exhibits for critters of appropriate size.
The ambient noise system now helps calm animals or silence guest noise.
Underwater viewing windows. No more making ground over a window just to make it visible.
Education overhaul.
Transform the education talks and seating into stages. Even allow the educators to have a stand inside the habitat or just not on a guest path. Raptors and education birds can be on the educators arms. Guided tours don’t suck the life out of educators and they can schedule what time of the year tours arrive. Also educators have a room where they can do online media presence to help with marketing.
Golf carts for employees to move around quicker.
Security guards can now staff a guard in a security room kinda like how vets use the research room.
So it seems there’s a good amount of content that would be good for launch but also for dlc
Aviaries, new exhibits at launch
Updates will get us
Petting zoo +
Employee boosts
Gift shops
I would pay double the regular price for this pack. I haven’t bought any of the recent DLCs but this would be something more up my alley. Especially if they all are habitat species (death to the exhibit box)
People who are into using mods are always talking about useful new rigs, but you know what’d have the most re-use potential? The coconut crab. It’d likely be PZ’s only official habitat invertebrate due to size and the rig could be used for most arthropods. A group of animals that includes all insects, crustaceans, and arachnids.
I know not everyone cares about making custom spaces for species from this category, but Id love having some habitat species options to allow for true freedom in space design.
Have similar feelings for almost every other species you included here as well (minus the perentie). Animals from categories completely ignored in PZ thus far and yet one of their rigs could open the door for hundreds of others.
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A beautiful summary of exactly why I chose these animals (death to the exhibit box).
Arthropods are ridiculously diverse. I know there is meme about everything going crab, but hermit crabs are simply weird. This group is adapted to stick their abdomen into shell and to do so back limbs are often completely reduced, while front pair commonly known as pincers is used to walk. From rig perspective cocount crab is beyond useless. All one can do from this is more hermit crabs lol.
No offense, but that’s not true of the Coconut Crab. Though they are a relative of the hermit crab, they don’t use shells for protection like them. They have 10 “legs” and only the rear-most pair isn’t used for walking/movement. Instead they are used for mating purposes. So that means Coconut Crabs make use of their 8 other limbs anytime they’re moving. A quick google search will show/tell you this.
Meaning that a Coconut Crab rig would have more than enough limbs to make most arthropods function in-game. Modders have also figured out how to “remove” parts from official rigs so there’s how you could use the rig for species with less limbs.
Again, I understand that arthropods might not be a priority for everyone, but there’s no need to downplay/misconstrue their abilities.
This big guy is missing one of its “pincher” claws but as you can see it’s using 4 of its 5 limb sets for movement.
Expect for juveniles, which just like other hermit crabs stick their abdomen into the shell.
They only use shells for protection when they are under one inch in size, an incredibly short and early part of their development. And just like every other species in PZ, Frontier likely would not decide to represent juvenile versions of their species at their earliest stages of development in-game.
Here’s a wild juvenile Coconut Crab, with no shell in sight (also munching on some raisins):
For example, we don’t see baby koalas, anteaters, or monkeys clinging to their mothers for protection like they would in their early stages of development. And we don’t have jelly bean-sized baby pandas or kangaroo joeys that use their mothers’ pouches. Instead Frontier gave us juveniles that are further along in their development. The same would be expected of pretty much any future animal addition in PZ.
Again I’ll reiterate, it’s fine if you personally don’t want a habitat Coconut Crab, but there’s no true reason why it couldn’t functionally work just as well as any other habitat species we’ve already gotten in the game. And yes, their rig would be useful for modding. They’re a 10 limbed arthropod, there’s no habitat species like that currently in-game.
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each to their own!
On the more technical side, there are a few small, but highly impactful, changes I'd like to see related to groups. These changes wouldn't do much for more casual players, but for people like myself would save a ton of time and headaches in the long run:
- It would be absolutely amazing to be able to select an item within a group and align the group axis to that item
- The ability to copy multiple groups in one go, rather than having to either fiddle around with multiple copies or just group up two things that you'd rather keep separate
- A mirror button to allow us to flip the items in the group
- It would be absolutely amazing to be able to select an item within a group and align the group axis to that item
- The ability to copy multiple groups in one go, rather than having to either fiddle around with multiple copies or just group up two things that you'd rather keep separate
- A mirror button to allow us to flip the items in the group
Yes, I absolutely dislike some of your choices, but you're missing the point even if I removed those and replaced them with my favourites, I would still have exactly the same reaction. Just in the list of animals to "wait for", you included 44 which means, with 7 animals per pack, we would get resells during 6 packs (plus 2 more animals in another)
Well, I did buy PZ1 much later, since when it came out it didn’t seem worth it to me I think I bought it around the time of Wetlands.But the difference with buying PZ1 without X species is that it was the first game I was investing in. At this point, I’ve already bought all the DLCs and now I’m supposed to believe that a new game, with just a few updates, is worth 60 euros, when it comes with only 40% of the species, and that I have to wait years for them and buy them all over again in resells? That’s laughable.
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I gotta say even though we’re like a year away from a potential PZ2 announcement, I am quite excited. I’ve wanted birds and especially fully aquatic species for the absolute longest. It would be amazing to finally have them alongside all the other QOL improvements and (hopefully) better gameplay and progression loop for franchise. (ZT2 style Challenges/ Events, Star progression system). The potential improvements to animal behaviors also have me so excited as well. I just hope we eventually get the full PZ1 roster back hopefully in the form of free updates.