SRV in orbit! 700km up above planet surface (Mitterand Hollow)

nickweb

nickweb
I also came to the same conclusion about the instancing and your ship / SRV being in the relative space to the Gnosis to make the appearance that there are gravity issues, but it's a fun glitch nontheless.

I also made a video too!

[video=youtube_share;mYu7dYWZ_aE]https://youtu.be/mYu7dYWZ_aE[/video]
 

Nat

Nat
Alec Turner said:
Now down on Mitterand Hollow myself - interesting!

So what seems to be happening is that the Gnosis "sphere of influence" (for want of a better description) is extending down to the planet meaning that for a certain area of the surface close to the megaship you end up moving relative to the Gnosis rather than the planet with the result that, when you drop out of glide mode you find the planet is still moving relative to your ship's frame of reference. In my case this meant that I lost something like 5 million credits worth of Pythons as the planet ploughed into me while I was boosting up to try and keep away from the approaching surface.

I found I could land on the opposite side of the planet without problem so what I'm currently doing is trying to find the edge of the megaship's sphere of influence so that I can a) land safely and b) drive into the "Gnosis Zone" and get lifted off the planet like Nat did.

Nat - I'm curious (sorry, haven't watched the whole stream yet), did you get lucky with where you landed or did you have the problem I did and have to find just the right spot to land?

Also, I made some video of me driving back towards the Gnosis side of the planet. No gravitational weirdness (yet) but the constant rise and fall of New Africa in front of me does look pretty cool!
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Taking the planets rotation into account, you need to fly 1000km away from the Geonsis and land just outside of the sphere of influence. Then quickly chase the planetary rotation in your SRV and when you go under 1000km, you shoot up!

If you land at the leading edge, with the planet chasing you, thats when you get slammed into the surface. The whole first part of my stream was exploring these limits!
 

Nat

Nat
nickweb said:
I also came to the same conclusion about the instancing and your ship / SRV being in the relative space to the Gnosis to make the appearance that there are gravity issues, but it's a fun glitch nontheless.

I also made a video too!
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Great Video!
 

Ouberos

Ouberos
be careful with your bug reports, wouldn't want the Hollow nerfed.

Also, in an unrelated incident my SRV was chased down a hill by a giant sphere today

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Hank

H
Excellent. I went there a week or two ago after I heard about it. I sat on the planet for a couple of days just watching in awe.

have some rep

GL HF and have a nice day
 

SushiCW

SushiCW
Alec Turner said:
Now down on Mitterand Hollow myself - interesting!

So what seems to be happening is that the Gnosis "sphere of influence" (for want of a better description) is extending down to the planet meaning that for a certain area of the surface close to the megaship you end up moving relative to the Gnosis rather than the planet with the result that, when you drop out of glide mode you find the planet is still moving relative to your ship's frame of reference. In my case this meant that I lost something like 5 million credits worth of Pythons as the planet ploughed into me while I was boosting up to try and keep away from the approaching surface.
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That's some A+ research right there! Also, high-budget. Science ain't cheap.
 

MAUXUS

MAUXUS
This is fun! Question: I parked my ship on the surface of MH at exactly 1000Km from the Gnosis. I'm looking directly at it from my ship and I don't see the Gnosis moving at all. Isn't it supposed to be orbiting Mitterand Hollow? Or am I missing something?
 
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pzykozomatik

pzykozomatik
Maybe you CMDRs who've been there can help me better understand this. I went to Mitterand Hollow over the weekend trying to experience the SRV-in-Space shenanigans.

I had much fun at the beginning finding out about the gravity zone, trying to land on a surface that seemed to speed away from me at 300 m/s, getting a moon in the face while trying to land from the other direction and dying, getting stuck below the surface in the SRV and self-destruct, being returned to my AspX which was now also below the surface and self-destruct.

But in most of my further attempts trying to find a usable landing site and drive the SRV into the "gravity up" zone, I wasn't even able to find a spot less than 1Mm from the Gnosis to land near. I would start from the Gnosis' hangar, going to SC pointed directy at Mitterand Hollow's center and approach until I reached the orbital cruise zone. Now, with the Gnosis selected, the sum of my distance from the station and my distance from the surface per the right-hand bar, should've been less than 1000 mM, but it wasn't. Flying around looking for the closest point between the two also didn't yield anything closer. I tried this several times, starting again from the station, logging out, restarting etc. Only once I was able to find a surface area closer than 1000Mm to the Gnosis again, but hadn't the opportunity to land.

Can someone explain to me what's going on and if I'm making something wrong or thinking incorrectly? Or is the Gnosis's orbit around the moon just elliptical due to New Africa's gravity and I was just unlucky to try at the wrong times?

Edit: ofc it’s 1.000 Mm or 1000km.
 
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Alec Turner

Alec Turner
pzykozomatik said:
Maybe you CMDRs who've been there can help me better understand this. I went to Mitterand Hollow over the weekend trying to experience the SRV-in-Space shenanigans.

I had much fun at the beginning finding out about the gravity zone, trying to land on a surface that seemed to speed away from me at 300 m/s, getting a moon in the face while trying to land from the other direction and dying, getting stuck below the surface in the SRV and self-destruct, being returned to my AspX which was now also below the surface and self-destruct.

But in most of my further attempts trying to find a usable landing site and drive the SRV into the "gravity up" zone, I wasn't even able to find a spot less than 1mM from the Gnosis to land near. I would start from the Gnosis' hangar, going to SC pointed directy at Mitterand Hollow's center and approach until I reached the orbital cruise zone. Now, with the Gnosis selected, the sum of my distance from the station and my distance from the surface per the right-hand bar, should've been less than 1000 mM, but it wasn't. Flying around looking for the closest point between the two also didn't yield anything closer. I tried this several times, starting again from the station, logging out, restarting etc. Only once I was able to find a surface area closer than 1000mM to the Gnosis again, but hadn't the opportunity to land.

Can someone explain to me what's going on and if I'm making something wrong or thinking incorrectly? Or is the Gnosis's orbit around the moon just elliptical due to New Africa's gravity and I was just unlucky to try at the wrong times?
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As I understand it the "zone" is 1000km around the Gnosis. So what I did (after a few early failures) was to fly down with a view to exiting glide mode just outside that and then fly in normal space to probe the boundaries of the effect before landing just outside it with a view to catching it up (or having it catch me up) shortly afterwards in the SRV. At one point I ended up with the "zone" chasing me as I was flying directly away from it (you can tell when you're ion it because the ground starts moving in directions contrary to how you're currently flying) and I was _just_ about able to get away from it by constantly boosting my Python to around 450m/s (sorry, can't recall the exact number). I don't think you stand a chance of catching it up in the SRV so you need to be landing in front of it, but I also think being directly in front of it is potentially lethal to your ship since the effect can push your ship back and down into the planet (I lost two Pythons this way). So you want to aim to be landing ahead of the zone but also off to one side somewhat. Hang on, think we need a picture here ...

... here ya go!

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That's my understanding of it anyway, others here may wish to comment and/or correct this view.
 
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pzykozomatik

pzykozomatik
Alec Turner said:
As I understand it the "zone" is 1000km around the Gnosis. So what I did (after a few early failures) was to fly down with a view to exiting glide mode just outside that and then fly in normal space to probe the boundaries of the effect before landing just outside it with a view to catching it up (or having it catch me up) shortly afterwards in the SRV. At one point I ended up with the "zone" chasing me as I was flying directly away from it (you can tell when you're ion it because the ground starts moving in directions contrary to how you're currently flying) and I was _just_ about able to get away from it by constantly boosting my Python to around 450m/s (sorry, can't recall the exact number). I don't think you stand a chance of catching it up in the SRV so you need to be landing in front of it, but I also think being directly in front of it is potentially lethal to your ship since the effect can push your ship back and down into the planet (I lost two Pythons this way). So you want to aim to be landing ahead of the zone but also off to one side somewhat. Hang on, think we need a picture here ...

... here ya go!



That's my understand of it anyway, others here may wish to comment and/or correct this view.
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Thanks for the reply, that’s exactly how understood it from this thread and by flying around MH. But as I wrote above, after initially finding the zone but failing to get the desired effect before dying, I had instances where there didn’t seem to be any surface point that lay within the zone. I travelled directly from the Gnosis towards the moon’s centerpoint, which should be the shortest distance, and even travelled around in SC afterwards in all directions searching, trying to get the Gnosis lined up at 90 degrees above, but the surface always seemed to be more than 1Mm (sorry, I wrote 1000Mm earlier) away from the station.

I think I will have another go today though. Wish me luck.
 
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Alec Turner

Alec Turner
pzykozomatik said:
Thanks for the reply, that’s exactly how understood it from this thread and by flying around MH. But as I wrote above, after initially finding the zone but failing to get the desired effect before dying, I had instances where there didn’t seem to be any surface point that lay within the zone. I travelled directly from the Gnosis towards the moon’s centerpoint, which should be the shortest distance, and even travelled around in SC afterwards in all directions searching, trying to get the Gnosis lined up at 90 degrees above, but the surface always seemed to be more than 1Mm (sorry, I wrote 1000Mm earlier) away from the station.

I think I will have another go today though. Wish me luck.
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Good luck! It is tricky, took me a few days to get it right and I think there was an element of luck involved with it too.
 
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