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Greetings from windswept NGC 3199
It occurs to me as I approach the nebula, this thing really looks like a conch shell if you approach from Sol. Can we rename it the Conch Nebula? Or do we have to stick with NGC3199 since that's the official designation?
Took me long enough to get out here but I made it.
I am sad to report that the nebula is bugged and the Wolf-Rayet that is supposed to be responsible for the odd shape of the nebula is halfway across the galaxy for some reason, the issue has already been reported to FD.
I've seen sadly little so far out here that's worth reporting back on, a few orange giants, some gas giants with life. Theres a system with two water based life giants, just outside the nebula, thats fairly interesting but Im not sure it should make the cut for the mapping project.
Ill be heading out towards the tip of the spur and then back up and follow it back down to Sol. I was going to try to jump the gap south, but Ive got a paintjob at home burning a hole in my pocket.
Im going to investigate those pink dots on the spur there and figure out whats going on with them, theyre noticeable enough to warrant mapping since they can be used to navigate. Ill let you know what I turn up.
It occurs to me as I approach the nebula, this thing really looks like a conch shell if you approach from Sol. Can we rename it the Conch Nebula? Or do we have to stick with NGC3199 since that's the official designation?
Took me long enough to get out here but I made it.
I am sad to report that the nebula is bugged and the Wolf-Rayet that is supposed to be responsible for the odd shape of the nebula is halfway across the galaxy for some reason, the issue has already been reported to FD.
I've seen sadly little so far out here that's worth reporting back on, a few orange giants, some gas giants with life. Theres a system with two water based life giants, just outside the nebula, thats fairly interesting but Im not sure it should make the cut for the mapping project.
Ill be heading out towards the tip of the spur and then back up and follow it back down to Sol. I was going to try to jump the gap south, but Ive got a paintjob at home burning a hole in my pocket.
Im going to investigate those pink dots on the spur there and figure out whats going on with them, theyre noticeable enough to warrant mapping since they can be used to navigate. Ill let you know what I turn up.
Hi again, just to say in order to record my exploration journey (as discussed a few pages ago) I've created a blog at http://elite.ahooks.co.uk. The blog is in it's infancy but I feel compelled to record the journey like I'm sure others on this site have done. It will give me something to do whilst I jump from star to star looking for new worlds and wonders within the galaxy! I think even if no one looked at it, I'd still write it! Gotta document this stuff somewhere and a blog seemed the ideal way to do so!!
I have spotted (with cmdr murishani help), a giants cluster just touching rosette nebula.
An hundred or so of ABO stars, MANY of them having neutron stars, few black holes, and spotted also a system with B7, Black Hole, AeBe5. Would call the Rosette Micro Field. It's still in the sector 01 with its cluttering problems, if interested i can give all coordinates and pics.
An hundred or so of ABO stars, MANY of them having neutron stars, few black holes, and spotted also a system with B7, Black Hole, AeBe5. Would call the Rosette Micro Field. It's still in the sector 01 with its cluttering problems, if interested i can give all coordinates and pics.
Can confirm this one, its a nice little open cluster just trailing and rimward of the rosette.
So i try anyway, it's very interesting. Erimus if you think it would clutter your sector one feel free to burn all of this with no remorse.
Rosette Open Cluster (about 5500 Ly from Sol)
(CMDR AKIRA MASAKARI, CMDR MURISHANI for cartographics)
It's an open cluster of ABO stars with a 75Ly diameter filled with hundred of ABO stars. It touches the Rosette Nebula Rimwise.
Many of the ABO have Neutron Stars in them, but if you are thinking to farm it's the wrong place. Wast majority of NS are at about 100,000 LS supercruise.
NGC 2244 CDZ 157 has a Class B, a Black Hole and an AeBe all at less than 100Ls from landing point. From there you can filter the map for ABO and have fun.
This system could be called Alpha & Omega, there's a dead star and various different TTauri plus the AeBe and a big B in midlife.
Note that here everything is already claimed, and there are not easy credits, it's for the amusement to find such a place in the perseus arm, very far from SAG A*
Edit: the Rosette Nebula included in the trip package is amazing too! And nearby there's a Neutron Star Sytem ROSETTE SECTOR HW-W D1-83.
Rosette Open Cluster (about 5500 Ly from Sol)
(CMDR AKIRA MASAKARI, CMDR MURISHANI for cartographics)
It's an open cluster of ABO stars with a 75Ly diameter filled with hundred of ABO stars. It touches the Rosette Nebula Rimwise.
Many of the ABO have Neutron Stars in them, but if you are thinking to farm it's the wrong place. Wast majority of NS are at about 100,000 LS supercruise.
NGC 2244 CDZ 157 has a Class B, a Black Hole and an AeBe all at less than 100Ls from landing point. From there you can filter the map for ABO and have fun.
This system could be called Alpha & Omega, there's a dead star and various different TTauri plus the AeBe and a big B in midlife.
Note that here everything is already claimed, and there are not easy credits, it's for the amusement to find such a place in the perseus arm, very far from SAG A*
Edit: the Rosette Nebula included in the trip package is amazing too! And nearby there's a Neutron Star Sytem ROSETTE SECTOR HW-W D1-83.
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Thanks for all the latest entries, I'll update the maps over the next few days.
Hey Erimus, glad to hear from you. Before you finish up the mapping for this round, if I might get a late entry in...
I'm checking out those pink spots at the end of the Orion Spur. In effect, they're just small disc shaped badlands of Y,T, and TT stars in a roughly circular shape that's only a hundred or so ly "deep" but many across.
They go all up and down the spur there all the way down to Barnards Loop. I'm trying to figure out what in the world they are over here: https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=144881 , but I've received no answers.
They might be worth marking on the map just for the sake of being so visible from above for navigation. Id love to name them something interesting for that sake. I just wish we knew more about them.
That said there is almost nothing else out here except the odd orange giant, or life bearing system its pretty dry and it just gets worse the further out the arm you get.
Unfortunately no smaller findings like planetary nebulas or unique systems so far. The odd neutron star (already tagged). Im sure there's something out here and I'm just not seeing it.
It should be noted though that the "thin" area out here is completely traversable (is that a word?) from the Perseus arm to the Sagittarius arm. Even out at the very ends it looks dense enough to cross, there's even a nice little "bridge" at the tip of the spur that goes straight between the arms. You can see all these features (the spots the bridge and all) on the sector 2 map quite clearly. The bridge at the Perseus arm even has several of those pink spots at its entrance.
I was going to go to the "end" of the Orion Spur, but that is not as easy as it sounds as there really isn't a clear distinction where this happens. Theres just a thinnish webbing of stars between Sagittarius and Perseus out beyond NGC 3199 the bridge there is really the "tip" of the spur, from there its just fields of open stars between the arms.
It kind of reminds me of a beach or a shallows or a valley or something between two larger bodies. The Orion Shallows?
Anyway good to hear from you, will report back, and if you know what those blasted pink spots are, do let me know?
cheers.
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I'm not sure what those pink spots are. Can you post a screenshot of them?
Also, the Orion Shallows sounds like a feature worth marking, if you can again post where you think it should be labeled on the map and I'll add it as soon as I can.
Also, the Orion Shallows sounds like a feature worth marking, if you can again post where you think it should be labeled on the map and I'll add it as soon as I can.
I'm not sure what those pink spots are. Can you post a screenshot of them?
Also, the Orion Shallows sounds like a feature worth marking, if you can again post where you think it should be labeled on the map and I'll add it as soon as I can.
Ok, update.
First of all the pink spots are in the middle of 'the black stuff' I dont know if that's the "great rift" or whatever, but its the black stuff in the middle of the galactic disc where theres always tons of unscoopables, this stuff:
This poses a problem as the area is actually dense with these kind of stars anyway, but these areas seems to be a little denser than the surrounding space but it's hard to tell.
If you do a galmap search for: Throofua QX-C a12-0 It's going to point you to the lower right "pink spot" out on the tip of the spur (zoom out on galmap to see it, up close you can't see the coloration)
I'm not sure whats causing this coloration on the galmap as the 'black stuff' area is already full of these things and Im not sure that the area is dense enough to warrant such a strong color. It doesnt help that it dissapears when you zoom in. Now these things appear up and down the orion spur in a bunch of places:
Im headed to the spots out on the spur, but Im afraid after looking on the galmap that Im going to be just as confused when I get there.
As for a map of the bridge the shallows and the spur tip, it looks something like this:
Tip of the spur (with pink spots)
Orion Shallows
like I said, its not a defined area, but theres just a wide swath of semi-sparse stars that "webs" between perseus and sagittarius out here for a long ways, like 7000+ ly out past NGC 3199 theres no clear borders out here where one arm stops, the spur ends and another arm begins.
EDIT: This honestly starts at the end of the spur near NGC 3199 and continues all the way to the end of the perseus arm, there's no "gap" out here between the arms, its just open shallow space. I don't know whether to slap a name on THAT much space or not. I leave it up to you.
EDIT: really it's more like this:
Hope that helps, cheers Erimus!
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If I'm correct, you could put the rosette open cluster in your map 2. It's in a region where map 1 and 2 overlaps, so that could clear some clutter from map 01, and stating giving some entries there.
Currently going up in perseus arm in your Map 02, something peculiar i should look for?
Also, becouse the neutron stars in the Rosette Open Cluster are never the landing star, some caution and experience is required to scan them (something like how to approach a NS from 100c when it accelerates you in the last 6 seconds, wich basically translates in slow down more). I would put some navigation Hazard for the cluster, can se turist fried from twin NS few ls away to each other, approaced at 100+c.
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I've made another amendment to the stipulations section in the original post...
Amendment #2 15th May 3301 : To avoid over-cluttering the local regions around Sol, only POIs that are of exceptional interest within 10,000 LYs from Sol can be added to the maps now due to the limited room on that particular map to fit things on. Other entries within 10K of Sol that will be classed as exceptional are any remaining real life astronomical POI's currently omitted, and all future Frontier Development injected POI's. So individual star entries need to be something visually unique (maybe actual contact binaries for example), or statistical record breakers etc... there is still plenty of room within that radius for rare or visually interesting worlds to be added as indexed POIs, and of course still room for large scale overlay features (like the Wregoe Plane, and the Ploea Theia High River for example).
I tried making a deeper field map of the local area to fit more future minor POIs, but it didn't look very good to be honest, the map was a featureless canvass with no discernible structure that made it look like a recognizable part of the galaxy. So the current maps (1-11) are about as deep as they should go imho as they at least show spiral structure of the galaxy and are easy to recognize in regards to the main overview map.
If FD provide us with a really deep and high-res 4K map, then we maybe be able to make much more defined and better looking large scale maps. Or if someone wants to have a crack at making deeper field maps and update them, please do
These have been added :
NGC 3199 is a real life place and also has a Frontier Developments label on the map, so can't be renamed the Conch Nebula, sorry
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Screenshot references for the The IC 1805 Black Hole Nebula :
NEXT MINOR POI INDEX REF #18
(^^ ignore that, its just for my own benefit when updating the next round of entries)
Amendment #2 15th May 3301 : To avoid over-cluttering the local regions around Sol, only POIs that are of exceptional interest within 10,000 LYs from Sol can be added to the maps now due to the limited room on that particular map to fit things on. Other entries within 10K of Sol that will be classed as exceptional are any remaining real life astronomical POI's currently omitted, and all future Frontier Development injected POI's. So individual star entries need to be something visually unique (maybe actual contact binaries for example), or statistical record breakers etc... there is still plenty of room within that radius for rare or visually interesting worlds to be added as indexed POIs, and of course still room for large scale overlay features (like the Wregoe Plane, and the Ploea Theia High River for example).
I tried making a deeper field map of the local area to fit more future minor POIs, but it didn't look very good to be honest, the map was a featureless canvass with no discernible structure that made it look like a recognizable part of the galaxy. So the current maps (1-11) are about as deep as they should go imho as they at least show spiral structure of the galaxy and are easy to recognize in regards to the main overview map.
If FD provide us with a really deep and high-res 4K map, then we maybe be able to make much more defined and better looking large scale maps.
Or if someone wants to have a crack at making deeper field maps and update them, please do These have been added :
- The Seagull Nebula
- The Orio-Persean Gap
- The Rosette Nebula
- The Eagle Nebula
- The Omega Nebula
- Dark Waters
- The Ploea Theia High River
- The IC 1805 Black Hole Nebula
- NGC 3199
- The Orion Spur Shallows
- The Rosette Micro Field & Open Cluster
NGC 3199 is a real life place and also has a Frontier Developments label on the map, so can't be renamed the Conch Nebula, sorry
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Screenshot references for the The IC 1805 Black Hole Nebula :
NEXT MINOR POI INDEX REF #18
(^^ ignore that, its just for my own benefit when updating the next round of entries)
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Thanks to ArachAu for allowing me to add his fantastic Nebula map to the project!
Finally got around to adding the following :
NGC 6357
THE LAGOON NEBULA
THE CAT'S PAW NEBULA
THE ETA CARINA NEBULA
THE VELA MOLECULAR RIDGE
BARNARD'S LOOP
VY CANIS MAJORIS
THE HEART & SOUL NEBULAE
THE BUBBLE NEBULA
THE STAR OF INDIA
NGC 1960
TYC 24 CLUSTER
I've also alphabetized the entries so it makes it easier to find a POI you're interested in.
NGC 6357
THE LAGOON NEBULA
THE CAT'S PAW NEBULA
THE ETA CARINA NEBULA
THE VELA MOLECULAR RIDGE
BARNARD'S LOOP
VY CANIS MAJORIS
THE HEART & SOUL NEBULAE
THE BUBBLE NEBULA
THE STAR OF INDIA
NGC 1960
I've also alphabetized the entries so it makes it easier to find a POI you're interested in.
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I think they're just dust features on the galactic map to give it some texture, but aren't physically there in game. Let me know if you discover otherwise though.
That is the sad possibility, but here's to hoping that Ziljan is right and theyre some sort of globular cluster thats actually represented by the stars age and metallicity .
Just found this thread, going to have to look through at my leasure, but sneeking a peek whilst at work. It struck me that the record book is missing something obvious.
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There are 8 different systems under the section for Neutron stars, but the record for "Furthest Neutron Star from Sagittarius A*" is blank. Surely one of them is further than the others - one of them is certainly closer, as it holds that record.
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There are 8 different systems under the section for Neutron stars, but the record for "Furthest Neutron Star from Sagittarius A*" is blank. Surely one of them is further than the others - one of them is certainly closer, as it holds that record.
Super Erimus!!!! Moving out from your 10k circle now i swear!!!