Now now, we can't be naming things after commanders, apparently...
From the first post:
Not my problem if you didn't care to read the first post and the guidelines
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The Galactic Mapping Project & Historical Archive of Exploration
From the first post:
Not my problem if you didn't care to read the first post and the guidelines
Not my problem if you didn't care to read the first post and the guidelines
You really had a sense of humour failure there.
Also, "choosing names that fit within the spirit of the game"? There are stations named after people - both famous and kickstarters. There are nebulae are named after people in real life too. I think it's a silly restriction - I get that they don't want "silly phrases" but why shouldn't POIs be named after discoverers or other people? If anything that'd widen the scope of naming a heck of a lot and not make it such a struggle to think of something appropriate. I mean, honestly I hate coming up with names for these things because it's so pretentious and contrived half the time. (and also, the one I proposed isn't even named after *my* CMDR, it's after another one. But then does that mean I can't even rename it to some other random human name?).
But since you have your panties in such a bunch about it, I propose naming the POI "Tiller's Trove" instead if "Tylar's Trove" isn't acceptable to the people who matter (i.e. the folks behind the GMP). I even changed the original post. But it's up to them to decide so stop going on about it please.
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Why are you so dense? I really wonder. Because the intention is really obvious, that names can include historical figures and the like, just not player names. Also, you seem to be oblivious to the fact that the GMP is fan-made, unofficial, not maintained by Frontier, so naming guidelines can be and are different from that used by the devs to name in-game stuff. Do you really not understand something so obvious and straightforward, or are you just trolling?
I think it's not. It has a purpose, and it's a reasonable one imo. As I mentioned before, it has been said by the GMP team that the idea is to put the focus on the discoveries themselves, instead of on the players, be them discoverers, contributors, etcetera. If you don't like that, because you want something to inflate your ego, then this might not be the place for you, just as you don't go into an RP group if you don't like roleplay.
That's your problem. If you don't want to come up with a name, you can simply say so and ask if someone else wants to do it. Just know that that could delay the POI's addition to the GMP until -and if- someone does that.
On the other hand I think it would be more pretentious to put one's own name onto stuff. I mean, if what bothers you is pretentiousness...
The team has made exceptions on cases where they have felt it was justified, for example as a memorial for a deceased player. You just have to make a compelling case for the exception. That way these exceptions are more meaningful.
You could have just read the first post to see if there are any rules about stuff. If you don't do that, you risk the rules being pointed out to you. If one starts playing chess without learning the rules first, and then when one makes a forbidden move one gets told that the move is not permitted, one can't then complain that the other "has his panties in such a bunch about it". Instead one should say "oh, sorry, my mistake, did not bother to learn the rules", because it would be ones' fault. Why be mad at someone that is simply correcting you on something?
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Do you actually have something useful to contribute to this thread? A POI or something? Or are you just going to sit there and derail it by lecturing people about things that are none of your business? If the GMP people have a problem with a name that's for them to decide and they'll say so (and they have, and I've already respected that by proposing a new name for my POI). They don't need anyone else to throw the book at people for them. It's not your place or anyone else's other than them to judge the worth or validity of any proposals here, and you're the one who has made a big deal out of this and is continuing to make a big deal out of it, not me. I've made suggestions and edited my proposal already so I can only guess that you're still going on about it because you're the type that wants to get the last word in about everything and wants to prove they're right all the time. So just shut up already and let everyone get back to posting POIs, yes?
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This ends now, please. Stay civil.
To clarify:
1) POI can be named after "real" explorers, discoverers, poets, et cetera. Examples I could instantly think of are Serebrov Crossing, Seldovich Nebula, Masefield's Ocean. This is covered by "the spirit of the project".
2) POI can under certain circumstances have a Commander's name (own or other), IF the staff agrees on it unanimously. Examples: Anthor Patch, Wagar's Reach
3) Same applies to a POI description like "It was discovered by CMDR Johnny Whatsisname during his 'Sheer Boredom Expedition'". We try to filter them out and edit the description accordingly. And yes, sometimes they slip us and we either leave it that way or edit it later.
4) Names of catalogue stars and nebulae remain unchanged. These include NGC (New General Catalogue), Messier, Col (Collinder), HD (Henry Draper), HIP (Hipparcos), HR (Harvard Revised) and on and on and on. Yes, there are exceptions, mostly because it slipped us or because of 2).
5) If you can't come up with a name under these circumstances it's also okay to name or distort the procedurally generated name. Examples: Eorl Priaa Nebula, Traikeou Giants, Nyathau Ripple, Gloomgown Association (derived from something like Gludgou sector).
6) Nobody is dense or a troll. We are familiy here. If you can't handle your good manners, please go to Dangerous Discussions
Fly safe!
To clarify:
1) POI can be named after "real" explorers, discoverers, poets, et cetera. Examples I could instantly think of are Serebrov Crossing, Seldovich Nebula, Masefield's Ocean. This is covered by "the spirit of the project".
2) POI can under certain circumstances have a Commander's name (own or other), IF the staff agrees on it unanimously. Examples: Anthor Patch, Wagar's Reach
3) Same applies to a POI description like "It was discovered by CMDR Johnny Whatsisname during his 'Sheer Boredom Expedition'". We try to filter them out and edit the description accordingly. And yes, sometimes they slip us and we either leave it that way or edit it later.
4) Names of catalogue stars and nebulae remain unchanged. These include NGC (New General Catalogue), Messier, Col (Collinder), HD (Henry Draper), HIP (Hipparcos), HR (Harvard Revised) and on and on and on. Yes, there are exceptions, mostly because it slipped us or because of 2).
5) If you can't come up with a name under these circumstances it's also okay to name or distort the procedurally generated name. Examples: Eorl Priaa Nebula, Traikeou Giants, Nyathau Ripple, Gloomgown Association (derived from something like Gludgou sector).
6) Nobody is dense or a troll. We are familiy here. If you can't handle your good manners, please go to Dangerous Discussions
Fly safe!
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Oh, just one note, since there appears to be a misunderstanding that came up earlier. Whenever I mentioned "giving credit where credit is due", I've always meant that for acknowledging the help of others whose work I used. Perhaps some might use such acknowledgement for their own glory, but that's on them. (Personally, I think that would be silly. Collaborative projects are quite poor for purposes of competition.) It's both a way of thanking those who helped, and if perhaps someone else is interested in the other works of someone whose work they liked, then they can look their name up.
You might or might not subscribe to the same view as well, it's fine either way: I just thought I'd explain myself more clear now, so that nobody would make false assumptions if this should ever come up again.
Moving on from all this, back to another batch of typos and errors, first from the Regional features category:
A few from the Nebula category (lots to check there):
You might or might not subscribe to the same view as well, it's fine either way: I just thought I'd explain myself more clear now, so that nobody would make false assumptions if this should ever come up again.
Moving on from all this, back to another batch of typos and errors, first from the Regional features category:
Xibalba: "-2000ly below" -> "2000 ly below", "true to its underworld title. Dark and Hazardous," -> "true to its abyssal title: dark and hazardous", "region, A stern reminder" -> "region, a stern reminder". Personally, I'd remove that last part though, because it can be applied to any other place.
The Great Rift: "the collection of dark nebula (also called absorption nebula)" -> "the collection of dark nebulae (also called absorption nebulae)", "Corona Austr. Dark Region" -> "Corona Australis Dark Region", also some inconsistent capitalisation of nebulae
Gloomgown Mausoleum: " The are by far not comparable" -> "The Mausoleum is not comparable in size"
The Three Kings: this is not an error per se, but could you add a link to the original size of the panorama image by herzbube? (https://imgur.com/a/smJJO) It's a good shot, and looks much better then.
"Süßes Fräulein" (Stellar Forge): "in it's" -> "in its"
Ogairy BV-X e1-1913: note that this only says "placeholder" (just a reminder in case it was accidentally left in)
Titan's Rest: "65ly" -> "65 ly"
Awjila: "ELW's" -> "ELWs", or better, "Earth-like worlds"
The Great Rift: "the collection of dark nebula (also called absorption nebula)" -> "the collection of dark nebulae (also called absorption nebulae)", "Corona Austr. Dark Region" -> "Corona Australis Dark Region", also some inconsistent capitalisation of nebulae
Gloomgown Mausoleum: " The are by far not comparable" -> "The Mausoleum is not comparable in size"
The Three Kings: this is not an error per se, but could you add a link to the original size of the panorama image by herzbube? (https://imgur.com/a/smJJO) It's a good shot, and looks much better then.
"Süßes Fräulein" (Stellar Forge): "in it's" -> "in its"
Ogairy BV-X e1-1913: note that this only says "placeholder" (just a reminder in case it was accidentally left in)
Titan's Rest: "65ly" -> "65 ly"
Awjila: "ELW's" -> "ELWs", or better, "Earth-like worlds"
A few from the Nebula category (lots to check there):
Heart & Soul Nebulae: "these two nebula" -> "these two nebulae"
Amaethon nebula: "and further expeditions could be made to scout out the nebula further." -> ", giving reason for Commanders to explore the nebula further."
Venetian nebula: "from within the nebulae itself" -> "from within the nebula itself"
Amaethon nebula: "and further expeditions could be made to scout out the nebula further." -> ", giving reason for Commanders to explore the nebula further."
Venetian nebula: "from within the nebulae itself" -> "from within the nebula itself"
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FYI there is a contributor list in the first post.
Is it sufficiently odd/notable to enter a Sector and find that almost all of the G-mass stars in four subsectors are T Tauri stars (there was only one B and one O system in about 40-50 G-mass systems which were otherwise all T Tauri. The other four G-mass subsectors didn't have anything at all). The four AA-A H systems in the sector are T Tauri as well but they're well outside my range above the top edge of the galactic disc (this is the Systooe Aowsy sector, at the top of the disc above the galactic bar, near the Eastern Neutron Fields)
There are regions in space that are maybe specially coded as being in "active star formation". These indeed can have a huge population of protostars like Herbig/Haros or the more regular T Tauri stars. By "G-mass" I assume you mean one solar mass? That would not be uncommon for a T Tauri star (plus its accretion disk of huge amounts of dust, gas and debris). These areas should be expected near the spiral bars of the core and the areas where the spiral arms begin to branch off, because these areas still hold sufficient dust and gas for "starburst" activity, which increases the pace of star formation greatly, hence more protostars are born and the population is denser.
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Thanks for adding, though the entry is missing the coordinates to the geyser location ( Body/Location: Hyiechou AI-J b36-0 A 2 c a, Coordinates: 24.0°, -134.5° ). Please add them later, thanks again!
By "G-mass" I am indeed referring to the sector mass code (e.g. AA-A, BA-A, CL-Y, DL-Y, EG-Y, FG-Y, YE-A, and ZE-A should all have stars with IDs that start with G in them, e.g. EG-Y G4), I don't know if there's another way of referring to those? If I was talking about spectral types I'd say 'G V' or "Main Sequence G".
Usually G-Mass stars are a mix of black holes, O stars, B stars, etc. In this case, four of those subsectors had no G-mass stars at all (none showed up in the search, probably because this is a 'partial' sector right at the top of the disc so only the bottom part has stars in), and the other four only had about 10-15 T-Tauri stars each. The few AA-A H-Mass stars were also T Tauris.
Also on the way up here the last sector or so (Smumbie) seemed to have no Neutron Stars at all. Usually when I'm plotting my route at this 'altitude' there are neutron stars and white dwarfs all over the place that can be used for Jet Boosts and those get added to the route, but even though that turned on in the route plotter it wasn't using any of those here (I'm about 2650 ly above the plane here). I haven't seen that on my trip, and I've done most of the journey from Colonia at beyond 2000 ly above the plane - usually every other star has been a neutron star at least.
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POI submission - Thaae Pri AA-A h0 - Fenix
3398LY below the galactic plane - a new record lowest visited system - lie two celestial bodies at opposite ends of stellar evolution: a black hole, and a bright T Tauri star. This seems like one star rising from the ashes of another, so I've called the system Fenix - using the old English variation as Phoenix is already a system in the game!
You can reach this system from Pothaae YE-A g12. Beware it is currently a one-way trip; the real shame is that YE-A g12 has a spectacular close pair of neutron stars, both spinning very fast with huge cones that can be seen from hundreds of light-seconds away - pointed almost straight at AA-A h0. It would be an absolute dead certain double supercharge were it still possible.
I'm on Xbox so I have no flight logs; if someone could please create an entry I'll get half a dozen distances for triangulation.
3398LY below the galactic plane - a new record lowest visited system - lie two celestial bodies at opposite ends of stellar evolution: a black hole, and a bright T Tauri star. This seems like one star rising from the ashes of another, so I've called the system Fenix - using the old English variation as Phoenix is already a system in the game!
You can reach this system from Pothaae YE-A g12. Beware it is currently a one-way trip; the real shame is that YE-A g12 has a spectacular close pair of neutron stars, both spinning very fast with huge cones that can be seen from hundreds of light-seconds away - pointed almost straight at AA-A h0. It would be an absolute dead certain double supercharge were it still possible.
I'm on Xbox so I have no flight logs; if someone could please create an entry I'll get half a dozen distances for triangulation.
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POI submission: Phroea Phio KB-R B51-1 1 A
POI type: Surface POI
Ref. star: Phroea Phio KB-R B51-1
Ref. planet: 1 A
Coordinates: -18 12
Description: The moons of the first gas giant in system Phroea Phio KB-R B-51-1 have active water geysers. The first moon's geysers are located in a beautiful ice canyon with a nice view on a ringed gas giant. As the moon is tidally locked, there are always plenty of possibilities for nice photos.
POI type: Surface POI
Ref. star: Phroea Phio KB-R B51-1
Ref. planet: 1 A
Coordinates: -18 12
Description: The moons of the first gas giant in system Phroea Phio KB-R B-51-1 have active water geysers. The first moon's geysers are located in a beautiful ice canyon with a nice view on a ringed gas giant. As the moon is tidally locked, there are always plenty of possibilities for nice photos.
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I've got a few from a recent 73 day long solo expedition.
Name: CANONN REACH
Game map search ref: SCHEE BLI FG-Y G227 BC 1 (Black Hole Primary Star/Stellar Feature)
Description:
Canonn Reach was discovered while studying G Mass systems near the core of the galaxy. G Mass systems commonly host binary Neutron, White Dwarf and BlackHoles
What makes this location exceptional is the view of a Binary White Dwarf and Neutron so close and so large that the jets of energy coming from them appear to touch the surface of Canonn Reach, which is a Non-Volcanic Metal Rich body located on body BC 1.
I was an explorer trying to find my way through this galaxy and Canonn Research Group helped me understand this place more fully. In honor of their open discussions and endless answers to my questions I have dedicated this discovery to the group. It was only through them that this was found.
I hope CMDR's come from far and wide to witness the beauty of this place and hopefully they too can come to understand how to find their way.
Screenshot reference:
(POI Thumbnail)
https://i.imgur.com/lupeCpfh.png (System Map)
Name: DOORWAY TO DUAT
Game map search ref: SCHEE BLI FG-Y G97 (Black Hole Primary Star/Stellar Feature)
Description:
Doorway To Duat is a Quadruple star system hosting one BlackHole and three Neutron stars. The first two Neutrons in sequence are at a distance to the Black Hole of only 7Ls and 22Ls away, leaving you with an exceptional experience and hopefully some nice photo or video documentation as well.
Screenshot reference:
(POI Thumbnail)
https://i.imgur.com/2kqRZTXh.png (System Map)
Name: PURPLE RAIN
Game map search ref: LASI RY-R E4-3131 2 A (Black Hole Primary Star/Planetary Nebula/Geyser)
Description:
Located in a Planetary Nebula/BlackHole System. Purple Rain has many active geysers and a stunning level of beauty that will leave you breathless and induce a truly great feeling within you. Come see this for yourself!
Coordinates:
Latitude: 61.3057
Longitude: -139.5297
Screenshot reference:
(POI Thumbnail)
https://i.imgur.com/D5lkKKah.png (System Map)
https://i.imgur.com/lVcRKWEh.png (Proof Of Existence)
All of these POI are covered in cinematic detail in this video.
[video=youtube;--eLeuT0U7M]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=--eLeuT0U7M[/video]
Name: CANONN REACH
Game map search ref: SCHEE BLI FG-Y G227 BC 1 (Black Hole Primary Star/Stellar Feature)
Description:
Canonn Reach was discovered while studying G Mass systems near the core of the galaxy. G Mass systems commonly host binary Neutron, White Dwarf and BlackHoles
What makes this location exceptional is the view of a Binary White Dwarf and Neutron so close and so large that the jets of energy coming from them appear to touch the surface of Canonn Reach, which is a Non-Volcanic Metal Rich body located on body BC 1.
I was an explorer trying to find my way through this galaxy and Canonn Research Group helped me understand this place more fully. In honor of their open discussions and endless answers to my questions I have dedicated this discovery to the group. It was only through them that this was found.
I hope CMDR's come from far and wide to witness the beauty of this place and hopefully they too can come to understand how to find their way.
Screenshot reference:
https://i.imgur.com/lupeCpfh.png (System Map)
Name: DOORWAY TO DUAT
Game map search ref: SCHEE BLI FG-Y G97 (Black Hole Primary Star/Stellar Feature)
Description:
Doorway To Duat is a Quadruple star system hosting one BlackHole and three Neutron stars. The first two Neutrons in sequence are at a distance to the Black Hole of only 7Ls and 22Ls away, leaving you with an exceptional experience and hopefully some nice photo or video documentation as well.
Screenshot reference:
https://i.imgur.com/2kqRZTXh.png (System Map)
Name: PURPLE RAIN
Game map search ref: LASI RY-R E4-3131 2 A (Black Hole Primary Star/Planetary Nebula/Geyser)
Description:
Located in a Planetary Nebula/BlackHole System. Purple Rain has many active geysers and a stunning level of beauty that will leave you breathless and induce a truly great feeling within you. Come see this for yourself!
Coordinates:
Latitude: 61.3057
Longitude: -139.5297
Screenshot reference:
https://i.imgur.com/D5lkKKah.png (System Map)
https://i.imgur.com/lVcRKWEh.png (Proof Of Existence)
All of these POI are covered in cinematic detail in this video.
[video=youtube;--eLeuT0U7M]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=--eLeuT0U7M[/video]
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Greetings, Commanders!
The Road to GCRV 6897
The previously unreachable Owl Nebula
[IMGUR]RO4zXQe[/IMGUR]
This post is to direct anyone's interest towards my post regarding how to reach the previously unreachable Owl Nebula, utilising the new Guardian FSD Boosters.
Please refer to this Forum Post:
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showt...RV-6897-The-previously-unreachable-Owl-Nebula
Please refer to this Google Document:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1IGIq1ELElVEtr3ibgtcav5bTjgC0dD3zNgrzsXA5V2I/edit?usp=drivesdk
I am very impressed by the works of The Galactic Mapping Project, and I'm very happy to be able to make my own contribution.
If there are any questions or queries, do not hesitate to get in contact with me:
Discord: Alky#6460
Discord (A Fallen Commander Expedition): https://discord.gg/tZ3xdkx
In-Game: Kelanen Alcatraz
-- Commander Kelanen Alcatraz
The Road to GCRV 6897
The previously unreachable Owl Nebula
[IMGUR]RO4zXQe[/IMGUR]
This post is to direct anyone's interest towards my post regarding how to reach the previously unreachable Owl Nebula, utilising the new Guardian FSD Boosters.
Please refer to this Forum Post:
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showt...RV-6897-The-previously-unreachable-Owl-Nebula
Please refer to this Google Document:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1IGIq1ELElVEtr3ibgtcav5bTjgC0dD3zNgrzsXA5V2I/edit?usp=drivesdk
I am very impressed by the works of The Galactic Mapping Project, and I'm very happy to be able to make my own contribution.
If there are any questions or queries, do not hesitate to get in contact with me:
Discord: Alky#6460
Discord (A Fallen Commander Expedition): https://discord.gg/tZ3xdkx
In-Game: Kelanen Alcatraz
-- Commander Kelanen Alcatraz
Not sure if this is sufficiently unique and/or interesting to warrant a POI, but I thought it was pretty neat:
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POI SUBMISSION
Name: Fire & Brimstone
System: Systooe Aowsy YF-F D11-5
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The primary star of this system is a G V star, but the companion B (M V) and C (L V) stars are in a close binary system about 5000 ls away, and each of those has a non-landable lava world in very tight orbits (the M V's planet is only 2.4 ls from the star with a 4.75 hr orbital period, and the L V's world is only 1.3 ls from it with a 2.83 hour orbital period). The stars themselves are only separated by a distance of 14 ls, and each close planet is clearly visible from the other star. Also the system is 2732 ly above the galactic plane so there are great views of the Milky Way from here (the area also has an unusually low density of neutron stars, white dwarfs, and black holes) but should be accessible to ship with at least 40ly range.
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POI SUBMISSION
Name: Fire & Brimstone
System: Systooe Aowsy YF-F D11-5
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The primary star of this system is a G V star, but the companion B (M V) and C (L V) stars are in a close binary system about 5000 ls away, and each of those has a non-landable lava world in very tight orbits (the M V's planet is only 2.4 ls from the star with a 4.75 hr orbital period, and the L V's world is only 1.3 ls from it with a 2.83 hour orbital period). The stars themselves are only separated by a distance of 14 ls, and each close planet is clearly visible from the other star. Also the system is 2732 ly above the galactic plane so there are great views of the Milky Way from here (the area also has an unusually low density of neutron stars, white dwarfs, and black holes) but should be accessible to ship with at least 40ly range.
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Thank you. I'm pretty happy about these ones. o7
Here's a potential candidate POI for EDSM. WEPAE EG-Y G1378
It's a system of 4 black holes, in two binary confidurations, with another star orbiting them (ABCD 1) It is the latter that is most interesting to visit, being a ringed M-type star (main sequence red dwarf) with large rings (1.5 million km out) of asteroids, a proper complete asteroid belt. Perhaps too far from civilization for mining, but I wouldn't mind trying.
It's fun to drop into but beware, the fringes of the rings are very dimly lit and it is easy to damage your ship by accidentally dropping out of SC due to proximity to them.
Don't have much idea for a name. Since it is a complete rocky asteroid belt around a star, with 4 black holes around, maybe "The Boxing Ring" or similar. You decide.
It's a system of 4 black holes, in two binary confidurations, with another star orbiting them (ABCD 1) It is the latter that is most interesting to visit, being a ringed M-type star (main sequence red dwarf) with large rings (1.5 million km out) of asteroids, a proper complete asteroid belt. Perhaps too far from civilization for mining, but I wouldn't mind trying.
It's fun to drop into but beware, the fringes of the rings are very dimly lit and it is easy to damage your ship by accidentally dropping out of SC due to proximity to them.
Don't have much idea for a name. Since it is a complete rocky asteroid belt around a star, with 4 black holes around, maybe "The Boxing Ring" or similar. You decide.
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