Oops, my bad. Guess it's true what they say about assumptions.He's a she..
Oops, my bad. Guess it's true what they say about assumptions.He's a she..
Sorry. I got a Real Live you know. I cant Spend 10 Hours a Day in Elite.
I first read it a few months back, and the name (much like your own) is 'easy' to remember...Oops, my bad. Guess it's true what they say about assumptions.
Look, Sunleader, as much as I agree with your points, could you please stop randomly capitalising words in your sentences. Pretty Please
I made about 2 Billions from yesterday evening to today. So...it´s a matter of three days ;-)
that in combination with the caps would change the name to "Sunleaderin" ;-)Oops, my bad. Guess it's true what they say about assumptions.
that in combination with the caps would change the name to "Sunleaderin" ;-)
edit: I learned english mostly by playing "Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy" and other textbased adventure games on the C64 back in the 80s ;-)
Ah yes - the Commodore 64...... Good times. Except when games wouldn’t start after a lengthy load lol .
I never had a C64. I had a spectrum with a built inAdjust the tone screw and start over
DATACORDER
(what the difference is between a DATACORDER
and a plain old tape deck eludes me) - though before that I did have an atari 800 with an external tape deck - on that one I mostly played the stuff we had on cartridges though.I never had a C64. I had a spectrum with a built inDATACORDER
(what the difference is between aDATACORDER
and a plain old tape deck eludes me) - though before that I did have an atari 800 with an external tape deck - on that one I mostly played the stuff we had on cartridges though.
Seriously, other than Breakout, the first game I remember playing was Star Raiders.
To this day, I think of the Star Raiders jump sequence every time I have to fight an interdiction.
Because thats not how things work.
If People give up on something and see no Hope for it. They wont Complain. They will write off the Loss and Move on.
Complaints are something you get when the Person intends to stick around. Something you get when your Game is good enough that People think its worth the Effort and Time Investment to try and Improve it.
Someone who is Convinced that SC will never be Finished or worth anything. Will Generally Demand a Refund or just Write it off. And no longer bother with it.
Someone who on Launch of NMS felt Cheated just asked for a Refund and left to not look back.
Now wether or not a Refund actually happens and if someone is ready to Expend the effort to get the Refund is another Story.
But the thing they dont do is waste more Time on it.
The Reason why People complain in Elite is because we have actual Expectations here.
We do think that this Game can become Better. And we do think its worth Investing the Time to Complain and Nag on the Devs to do a Better Job.
I think I understand your point. As this is a game in continuous development we have expectations and we want the game to become better and have more things on it. I think the devs too, not only because it is their job but because I think they like what they are doing. But I do think that a part of the players (a small vocal part, I think, but I'm not sure nor I have any means to prove it) actually enjoy posting these complaining threads just for the fun of getting angry and I have the feeling that getting angry on the internet is becoming very addictive.
I compared the game with NMS and SC because they are similar but there are other games with active development and communities which I personally know and visit from time to time, just like here in Elite. il-2: Great Battles, DCS, and The Long Dark. Of them, probably Elite and DCS have, in my opinion, the angriest fandom. I understand it from DCS, friking planes are incredibly expensive (Carrier, a plane and a map each for $70 USD? @#$%%!), so yeah, they have very good reasons to demand only the best. The rest have their drama but the comments are usually constructive, polite, and realistic but here?
Seriously, who names their thread "the worse implementation in years" for the tweak of the price of a handful, among dozens, of products of the trade aspect of the game? And happens all the time! Everything is the worst thing ever and then they list their wishes that are in direct contradiction to other "worst thing ever" wishes!
Anyway, I guess that in a way this is also another "worst thing ever" rant but towards the community so I guess I'm in that wagon too. I better get back to playing the game.
EDIT: I just noticed you are the OP so that went like a personal attack, my apologies but well, I wrote it so I will leave it here to prove my lack of tact.
Adjust the tone screw and start over
I find it very hard to get worked up about the removal of a massive outlier of a moneymaker that I was able to afford a carrier without resorting to using, sorry.
I only tried out the mining map the day before the nerf hit to see just how lucrative it was, and hooh. It was leagues ahead of doing it the normal way.
And why was it so far ahead? Because it completely cut out an entire section of the gameplay loop, namely prospecting.
The same thing was true of people slapping up the triple-hotspots. Instead of going out, prospecting, finding a hotspot and getting some shinies out of it, now you had someone saying "EVERYONE, FORGET PROSPECTING, GO HERE AND ONLY HERE" and you could cut the entire "finding the good spots" part out of your game.
The thing is, mining was still a fantastic way to make money without doing it the meta way. And you know what? Your average, casual, "fly out to some rings, hit up a hotspot and grab what's there" method is still good. Or at least, would be if they fixed the PWA but that's another matter entirely.
Personally if I were fdev I'd incorporate some sort of date stamp into the seed for generating asteroids and kill these "everyone mine this one spot in this one system on this exact route forever and don't bother deviating from the already solved problem" maps. Sorry, everyone mined those asteroids already, they're depleted now.
Even the weekly tick would do it - it'd give enough time for gold rushes to pop up if someone finds something like the egg partway through the week and everyone piles in to get in on it before it vanishes again.
Yeah. Back when people were going on about the egg, I actually went mining elsewhere, at a nice little VO/LTD overlapping hotspot, chasing after core and subsurface rocks. One time, I dropped on the ring and almost immediately stumbled upon a rock that was even better than the egg. It had five subsurface deposits and a high LTD content along with a few surface spots. I got over 90 tons from that one asteroid. It was an absolute jackpot.If there were some way to destroy asteroids and have them disappear forever without needing ridiculous amounts of data to save it all, I'd be all for that, it'd be pretty cool to see how much exactly players have mined thus far, and there's more than enough rings out there to last forever even with single-use asteroids.
But I think that would probably use an exorbitant amount of information, so it probably wouldn't be worth the bother.
Mining maps? That's a thing?I find it very hard to get worked up about the removal of a massive outlier of a moneymaker that I was able to afford a carrier without resorting to using, sorry.
I only tried out the mining map the day before the nerf hit to see just how lucrative it was, and hooh. It was leagues ahead of doing it the normal way.
And why was it so far ahead? Because it completely cut out an entire section of the gameplay loop, namely prospecting.
The same thing was true of people slapping up the triple-hotspots. Instead of going out, prospecting, finding a hotspot and getting some shinies out of it, now you had someone saying "EVERYONE, FORGET PROSPECTING, GO HERE AND ONLY HERE" and you could cut the entire "finding the good spots" part out of your game.
The thing is, mining was still a fantastic way to make money without doing it the meta way. And you know what? Your average, casual, "fly out to some rings, hit up a hotspot and grab what's there" method is still good. Or at least, would be if they fixed the PWA but that's another matter entirely.
Personally if I were fdev I'd incorporate some sort of date stamp into the seed for generating asteroids and kill these "everyone mine this one spot in this one system on this exact route forever and don't bother deviating from the already solved problem" maps. Sorry, everyone mined those asteroids already, they're depleted now.
Even the weekly tick would do it - it'd give enough time for gold rushes to pop up if someone finds something like the egg partway through the week and everyone piles in to get in on it before it vanishes again.
Yep. Yields from asteroids are procedurally generated from the same seed number each time, so if you visit the same spot in a field on two separate occasions and prospect the same rock both times they will have the same mineral content each time.Mining maps? That's a thing?
It is, but it shouldn't be. The distribution should be random, tbh, but too many people sulk when you suggest depleting an asteroid of it's minerals, coming back later and BOOM it's back to full because the mineral faeries topped it up for you is more realistic than the rocks in the belts rearranging over time, like you'd expect.Mining maps? That's a thing?
i know. so wow what a great change...you had 3 materials worth mining before the patch now you have one - gg