Orbital cruise sounds like a slower version of supercruise but it essentially could be the same mechanic but slower and at the press of a planet land button.
Oh and i always think hyper-insertion is a better name.
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Orbital cruise sounds like a slower version of supercruise but it essentially could be the same mechanic but slower and at the press of a planet land button.
Oh and i always think hyper-insertion is a better name.
Yes, there is a loading screen between SC <-> normal space *but* you can fly seamlessly from one station to another (try this between the two close stations around earth) in normal space, and if you are in open you'll find players at both.
Now I'm not sure if that means that you can leave and enter instances seamlessly, or if it's simply players leaving and entering your instance during your travel between two spots in normal space.
As I understand it, the "loading screen" will be between SC and Orbital Cruise when approaching the planet, and the entry/landing will be seamless from there. (I assume that max speed in Orbital Cruise is higher than the actual max speed in normal space and lower than min speed in SC)
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I see what you did thereYou have to tell the SC guys, they don't know such a thing is possible
Lets hope.
Either way if FD show actual landing gameplay tomorrow then we'll know the real answer.
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SC = Cutscenes in space fps shooter
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Why are you posting this here? Elite did this two decades ago already. You have to tell the SC guys, they don't know such a thing is possible
SC = Cutscenes in space fps shooter
If you can enter an SRV, then how will this happen seamlessly if there isn't walking around ships? So one could assume that there will be a loading screen for this interaction until the walking around ships expansion is bolted on. ... Or did I miss something?
PS: And what about underwater exploration? That would be awesome too.
Oh boy did you miss something. Not sure what an SRV is other than Stevie Ray Vaughan. I had figured Frontier was going the console arcade route after the non-existent seamless galaxy, and the USS only mission structure, but they are still claiming seamless planet landings.
Not sure what walking around has to do with planet landings. There was no walking around in Elite Frontier, but there was an actual seamless part of a galaxy.
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Yeah I reckon it will be that sort of seamless.
Why are you posting this here? Elite did this two decades ago already. You have to tell the SC guys, they don't know such a thing is possible
Who is going to tell them that their game is outdated even before it is released?
By the way Braben mentioned something like orbital/planetary supercruise in the Gamescon vid?
So I guess you go from normal supercruise into orbital supercruise before being able to land.
EDIT: I see it was already mentioned in the thread
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Planetary landings - yay!
What an exciting statement! I read it while exploring and nearly flew into a sun in the process - completely forgot about throttling down after jumping to a new system.
So we will get to dive into the gravity wells and set down on the least complicated ones - the atmosphere-less balls. Good news indeed, and the expansion I was hoping for. That, in my opinion, is the part of the core gameplay that has been missing to get this on par with the Frontier series of games. Were thargoids to show up instead, we would be on par with the original Elite. But that might not require a full expansion to pull off. Interaction with the surfaces of the planets will make the gameplay seem less shallow.
Seamless landings? Great idea, but how will that fit in the current supercruise/normal space flight model separation? I'd imagine we would not be able to supercruise straight to the surface, it would violate the model of warping space as a means of propulsion. We would be too close to the point of gravity. Rather I thought we would get a new type of instance when dropping out of supercruise near a planet, one that would interact with the gravity well itself and allow us to land.
Stuff to do at the surface? Great! The photo ops would be endless, but other stuff to do is great as well. Will it mean more detailed information from the Detailed Surface Scanners (points of interest highlighted on the HUD display of the planet, perhaps)? Will it mean a Mass Effect mini-game racing round looking for stuff on a myriad of planets that all somehow appear the same?
Somehow I get the feeling we will have to learn to cope with different types of surfaces, with different gravitational pulls (racing round is fine, but don't accidentally put the Scarab back in orbit!). And will the physical environments be transformable? Will we be able to leave tracks, craters? Probably not for others to see (although crashing a Sidie at 30 km/s might realistically leave a permanent scar), as keeping track of all that havoc and the probable concerted efforts of some to turn such aspect into another Minecraft game will either require heavy policing by FD or an in-game agency to avoid it getting silly.
In any case, exciting stuff. Now where is the beta <cracks knuckles>
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What an exciting statement! I read it while exploring and nearly flew into a sun in the process - completely forgot about throttling down after jumping to a new system.
So we will get to dive into the gravity wells and set down on the least complicated ones - the atmosphere-less balls. Good news indeed, and the expansion I was hoping for. That, in my opinion, is the part of the core gameplay that has been missing to get this on par with the Frontier series of games. Were thargoids to show up instead, we would be on par with the original Elite. But that might not require a full expansion to pull off. Interaction with the surfaces of the planets will make the gameplay seem less shallow.
Seamless landings? Great idea, but how will that fit in the current supercruise/normal space flight model separation? I'd imagine we would not be able to supercruise straight to the surface, it would violate the model of warping space as a means of propulsion. We would be too close to the point of gravity. Rather I thought we would get a new type of instance when dropping out of supercruise near a planet, one that would interact with the gravity well itself and allow us to land.
Stuff to do at the surface? Great! The photo ops would be endless, but other stuff to do is great as well. Will it mean more detailed information from the Detailed Surface Scanners (points of interest highlighted on the HUD display of the planet, perhaps)? Will it mean a Mass Effect mini-game racing round looking for stuff on a myriad of planets that all somehow appear the same?
Somehow I get the feeling we will have to learn to cope with different types of surfaces, with different gravitational pulls (racing round is fine, but don't accidentally put the Scarab back in orbit!). And will the physical environments be transformable? Will we be able to leave tracks, craters? Probably not for others to see (although crashing a Sidie at 30 km/s might realistically leave a permanent scar), as keeping track of all that havoc and the probable concerted efforts of some to turn such aspect into another Minecraft game will either require heavy policing by FD or an in-game agency to avoid it getting silly.
In any case, exciting stuff. Now where is the beta <cracks knuckles>
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Yup a transition, like the one from normal space to sc. or even the one from system to system (hyperspace jump). They are really stretching the seamless meaning here, but hey I'm not worried about the transitions. If it says 'orbital drive charging' and gives me the exact same countdown, I couldn't care less. Just make sure it is all tested first and don't rush out a bug ridden heap like haS been done with every other aspect of this game.
This is the expansion I was really hoping they were going to announce at Gamescom. Really happy they have!
Even if it's just rocky worlds at first, the things you can do on them (aside from just flying around admiring the view) are really interesting. I like the idea of discovering crashed ships. Mining. Maybe finding a resource that is desperately needed in another system, and taking it back (could maybe tie in with PP).
The other thing that I really liked from the trailer was the slightly foreboding atmosphere of it all. There's something very unsettling about landing on a desolate, distant dark world, knowing that you are probably the first person to ever have been there. Maybe on the edge of some dark crater or canyon, shutting down the ship's engines and then going out to see what's down there. Spooky-wooky!
Even if it's just rocky worlds at first, the things you can do on them (aside from just flying around admiring the view) are really interesting. I like the idea of discovering crashed ships. Mining. Maybe finding a resource that is desperately needed in another system, and taking it back (could maybe tie in with PP).
The other thing that I really liked from the trailer was the slightly foreboding atmosphere of it all. There's something very unsettling about landing on a desolate, distant dark world, knowing that you are probably the first person to ever have been there. Maybe on the edge of some dark crater or canyon, shutting down the ship's engines and then going out to see what's down there. Spooky-wooky!
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Yes, the atmosphere-less world should be stark and desolate, and probably dusty. This will also be where the simulation gets truly complicated. I might be keeping a keener eye than usual since I'm a geologist in RL and work with prospecting and mining.
What kind of mining modules will we need? The same type as in Frontier/FFE that we left to do its work when we had found a good spot, to come back to later?
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That might work. Otherwise it would take a long time to get down to the surface, at the current rate of travel near planets. And people seem impatient with SuperCruise as it is...
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Planetary Landings - impact on exploration?
In the stream Mr Braben said that planetary landings can happen all over the galaxy (except in areas where there may be a permit required ... HMMM).
I wonder what that means for example if you land out in unexplored space ... will there be things to "discover" on the planet or moon and will there be an exploration payout and rank bonus?
In the stream Mr Braben said that planetary landings can happen all over the galaxy (except in areas where there may be a permit required ... HMMM).
I wonder what that means for example if you land out in unexplored space ... will there be things to "discover" on the planet or moon and will there be an exploration payout and rank bonus?