The Quest To Find Raxxla

Rochester

Rochester
Thatchinho said:
I think the problem with this in terms of logic is several-fold:
  • There’s nothing to say that the rumour of Raxxla resulted from the discovery of Raxxla itself (there are certainly hints in the codex that it didn’t)
  • Assuming that the rumour started with the discovery of something outside of Sol, there’s nothing to say it was as a result of a jump that went right.
  • Similar, but for the following - it being discovered on a manned journey, it being discovered on a publicly acknowledged journey, etc.

Don’t get me wrong, I’m not saying it’s not an avenue worth considering, just that we can’t draw any definitive conclusions about the location of Raxxla based on it. It’s a good first cut of things though.

(Personally, my take on stuff like this is that the best approach to take is to look into it in its own right, with looking for Raxxla disregarded. Better to see what we can work out in general, and then see if that info tells us anything about Raxxla. Even if it doesn’t end up telling us anything about Raxxla, it might tell us about something else. And who knows, given what little we know about Raxxla, that something else might actually turn out to be connected with Raxxla.)
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A really good point. Totally agree.

My ramblings are essentially just an attempt at critical thinking, to challenge what we have; the assumptions I’ve made are just that, as such not enough to make a reliable assessment nor recommendations.

We must challenge our theories regularly, to improve our critical thinking and processes.

My current tin-fooleries only endeavour to see where information from the codex could take us if treated as reliable and trusted; in reality much if not all is technically an unknown.

What you propose is information collection broadly, which is sound, but in reality when setting out to gather intelligence one ought to set out the information requirements, based upon a simple set of questions. We ought to assess these IR based upon priorities, such as resources, intelligence gaps etc to provide focussed information gathering.

Technically there really isn’t enough information in game to warrant nor undertake this, unless reliable information can be obtained from the Codex or FD and even then one has to assess said information against a measure of reliability. The implicated danger is our institutional bias, which can cloud our information gathering.
 
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Jorki Rasalas

Jorki Rasalas
TOP SECRET- RAXXLA INTELLIGENCE COLLECTION PLAN

Information requirements:
location information for Raxxla
Determination of what Raxxla is

Success criteria:
Localisation within 20 ly of actual position
If it’s not static then localisation of position over a period of time that will allow us to find it, say next three weeks

Potential obstacles to plan:
We don’t know what it is, so we probably won’t know when/if we find it
There are no clues

Summary:
Ummmmmmmmm...........twiddles thumbs.......
 

Jorki Rasalas

Jorki Rasalas
In my ipad saved pics I have one of two moons/planets hiding behind a cloud. Anyone know what that is &/or where it came from?
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LumpTheNoLeggedDog

LumpTheNoLeggedDog
Jorki Rasalas said:
TOP SECRET- RAXXLA INTELLIGENCE COLLECTION PLAN

Information requirements:
location information for Raxxla
Determination of what Raxxla is

Success criteria:
Localisation within 20 ly of actual position
If it’s not static then localisation of position over a period of time that will allow us to find it, say next three weeks

Potential obstacles to plan:
We don’t know what it is, so we probably won’t know when/if we find it
There are no clues

Summary:
Ummmmmmmmm...........twiddles thumbs.......
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maybe location is imprinted on one of the space stations in the bubble.
 

Han_Zen

Han_Zen
CMDRCorrMorningstarFelian said:
Has anyone seriously looked into why the Frontier gazette says Altair should have 20 bodies but has 5 planets in Elite Dangerous. Ackcanphi should have had earth-like but is just 2 stars. This is just sampling of the initial discovery reports being not even remotely close to what is in-game. There are also several systems such as Enaness that are straight up completely missing. These lore important systems. Shouldn't these match reasonably closely. Even factoring in 2296 - 3308 is 1,012 years and it has been 1,211 years since the first generation ship (2097 per Galnet) there should be at least reasonable consistency. I could understand if one of the systems was Jackson's Lighthouse which per the system description the binary stars formed the magnetar in 2672. I mean if key pieces are gone the immediate assumption should not be retconn but that maybe you need to look nearby or see if the system had a name change over all those centuries.
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The Gazetteer isn’t lore. Almost all systems have changed their composition, since the Fe2 galaxy. The system generator was not as accurate, as the one in ED.
many systems were not realistic or even physically possible.

I would focus on the stories from the old games. Not the numbers.
 

Rochester

Rochester
Jorki Rasalas said:
TOP SECRET- RAXXLA INTELLIGENCE COLLECTION PLAN

Information requirements:
location information for Raxxla
Determination of what Raxxla is

Success criteria:
Localisation within 20 ly of actual position
If it’s not static then localisation of position over a period of time that will allow us to find it, say next three weeks

Potential obstacles to plan:
We don’t know what it is, so we probably won’t know when/if we find it
There are no clues

Summary:
Ummmmmmmmm...........twiddles thumbs.......
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My point entirely, this is a tin foil thread, wild theory and assumptions are fair wind. Serious thoughts are welcome but we need to keep our tin bonnets ready.

If one took my own ‘half serious’ post and applied more realistic methods the reliability score would drop and one would get the following:

Assessment: There is a realistic possibility (=40% / <50%) that Raxxla (R) is in game, based upon the confirmative public statements made by FD. However FD operate a modus operandi (MO) of releasing content over time, due to this evidence the exact nature of what Raxxla is or where cannot be confirmed, there is also insufficient evidence in game for corroboration or information gathering.

Assumptions/Intelligence gaps: No additional informed assumptions can be made at present as the intelligence gap is too wide.

Recommendations: Play the game and gather any additional in game information (related or unrelated) for future analysis. If R is currently active it can be located either randomly by anyone, or via in game methods. If it is not wait until FD release the appropriate storyline as they will advertise clues at that time in line with the MO.

Which is why we tin foil.

On the same note, we just bought a new sofa, I had the chance to cut open the old one before taking it to the tip, and found the following:

Forty two crayons; 3 TV remote controls; 6 batteries; 1 handful of crumbs (possibly biscuits); 1 unknown relic the size of a child’s hand; 6 blocks of Lego including 1 Iron man figure, and £25 in loose change; no Raxxla.
 
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Jorki Rasalas

Jorki Rasalas
Rochester said:
My point entirely, this is a tin foil thread, wild theory and assumptions are fair wind. Serious thoughts are welcome but we need to keep our tin bonnets ready.

If one took my own ‘half serious’ post and applied more realistic methods the reliability score would drop and one would get the following:

Assessment: There is a realistic possibility (=40% / <50%) that Raxxla (R) is in game, based upon the confirmative public statements made by FD. However FD operate a modus operandi (MO) of releasing content over time, due to this evidence the exact nature of what Raxxla is or where cannot be confirmed, there is also insufficient evidence in game for corroboration or information gathering.

Assumptions/Intelligence gaps: No additional informed assumptions can be made at present as the intelligence gap is too wide.

Recommendations: Play the game and gather any additional in game information (related or unrelated) for future analysis. If R is currently active it can be located either randomly by anyone, or via in game methods. If it is not wait until FD release the appropriate storyline as they will advertise clues at that time in line with the MO.

Which is why we tin foil.

On the same note, we just bought a new sofa, I had the chance to cut open the old one before taking it to the tip, and found the following:

Forty two crayons; 3 TV remote controls; 6 batteries; 1 handful of crumbs (possibly biscuits); 1 unknown relic the size of a child’s hand; 6 blocks of Lego including 1 Iron man figure, and £25 in loose change; no Raxxla.
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Oooh, Rochester’s Ancient Biscuit Crumbs! A very rare substance indeed, you must be getting close!

42 crayons is just obfuscation, distracting us with thoughts of HGTTG
But check closely those lego blocks, just in case one has an omphalos! 😉

On second thoughts also check the cellar for any suspicious filing cabinets and crocodiles!!
 

Rochester

Rochester
One always must be vigilant. I (we) used to own a studio in town; it was situated within an old 1960’s factory, a very old brick building with many locked and boarded up doors.

On one such occasion we uncovered a door which led down 3 floors to another locked door, at some point we mysteriously gained entry, and found a large (too large to get out of the room) multi faced hexagonal object about 6 foot high, painted gold, made of wood and nailed to the floor, there was a covering of dust everywhere…reminded us of ‘Proteus-4’… true story.

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Jorki Rasalas

Jorki Rasalas
Probably not relevant to the Quest, but guardian obelisks now exhibiting different behaviour

Guardian obelisk glitch?

I have done some guardian material collection today, and I have remarked that all obelisks have this animation and sound : Source: https://youtu.be/PeAgCdM0PNw Did someone already notice that before? Or maybe it's a bug? In fact, we can say that all obelisks are trying to... compute...
forums.frontier.co.uk forums.frontier.co.uk
 

CMDRCorrMorningstarFelian

CMDRCorrMorningstarFelian
Jorki Rasalas said:
TOP SECRET- RAXXLA INTELLIGENCE COLLECTION PLAN

Information requirements:
location information for Raxxla
Determination of what Raxxla is

Success criteria:
Localisation within 20 ly of actual position
If it’s not static then localisation of position over a period of time that will allow us to find it, say next three weeks

Potential obstacles to plan:
We don’t know what it is, so we probably won’t know when/if we find it
There are no clues

Summary:
Ummmmmmmmm...........twiddles thumbs.......
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This is exactly why I am heading to the largest gravitational anomaly nearby the Bubble. Sometimes the desire to bend the universe on itself requires a bit of assistance. After all, wisdom comes from pain and darkness.
 

CMDRCorrMorningstarFelian

CMDRCorrMorningstarFelian
LumpTheNoLeggedDog said:
maybe location is imprinted on one of the space stations in the bubble.
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Try every large station (Orbis, Corioilis, and Ocellus) on both ends of the interior. What you thought they shot loitering CMDRs on sight for mere traffic control?!. Remember, this is a deadly secret. Additionally, look very carefully at the large round planetary ports with what looks like a shielded dome (they are very rare). They structurally have the same kind of design as the ends of interior of the large stations. Still trying to decode what exactly the hint is but it isn't something than can be readily explained away with utilitarian design.
 
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Jorki Rasalas

Jorki Rasalas
Adel said:
Forgot the update...
But important thing in patch note:

Codex: Knowledge Base
  • The following articles have been added:
  • Aegis
  • The Consortium
  • Generation Ships
  • Pilots' Federation
  • Several entries under “Corporations”
  • Ishmael Palin’s entry was updated.
  • The Guardians section saw a terminology correction.

I hope we will get some updated info/clues
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Mmm, might be obscuration going on, I cant find the first four items! 🙂
 

Thatchinho

Thatchinho
Rochester said:
A really good point. Totally agree.

My ramblings are essentially just an attempt at critical thinking, to challenge what we have; the assumptions I’ve made are just that, as such not enough to make a reliable assessment nor recommendations.

We must challenge our theories regularly, to improve our critical thinking and processes.

My current tin-fooleries only endeavour to see where information from the codex could take us if treated as reliable and trusted; in reality much if not all is technically an unknown.

What you propose is information collection broadly, which is sound, but in reality when setting out to gather intelligence one ought to set out the information requirements, based upon a simple set of questions. We ought to assess these IR based upon priorities, such as resources, intelligence gaps etc to provide focussed information gathering.

Technically there really isn’t enough information in game to warrant nor undertake this, unless reliable information can be obtained from the Codex or FD and even then one has to assess said information against a measure of reliability. The implicated danger is our institutional bias, which can cloud our information gathering.
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They might have been ramblings, but I thought they were good ramblings! More than enough to make me chip in with the info I had (and to revisit the sources and check them before posting as well 🙂).

A lot of the last post was just me giving my thoughts on the matter as well.

I think the challenge on the intelligence gathering front is that, as you say, and as per @Jorki Rasalas ‘s post, we know so little that the information requirements are incredibly broad. Hence the approach of seeking information for the information’s sake, and then seeing what can be deduced from that broad set of info.

As an example, I went to Sol a long while back to see what the minimum jump range is to be able to plot a route to Achenar or Lave. Both are greater than 7ly - which of course is often cited as being the range of old hyperdrives. Useful info. Could very well just be that a very indirect route is possible which the route plotter wouldn’t try. Does it say anything about Raxxla? Possibly not, at least not directly. It’s interesting info nevertheless.

But I digress…
 

CMDRCorrMorningstarFelian

CMDRCorrMorningstarFelian
Jorki Rasalas said:
In my ipad saved pics I have one of two moons/planets hiding behind a cloud. Anyone know what that is &/or where it came from?
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If I had to guess that's a lagrange cloud. You generally need a class D or greater system for those to form. Trying to find the forum post on it but on systems without proper names you can tell by the name sequence. You generally need a class F main star or greater to for there to be a good chance of a large enough lagrange point. Look at the top of the 2nd page. You are looking for the Mcode (or mass code). This isn't mine but yes it is entirely possible to tell what kind of things you would expect to find in the system based on mass-code for that system.
 

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CMDR Davanix

CMDR Davanix
Jorki Rasalas said:
Probably not relevant to the Quest, but guardian obelisks now exhibiting different behaviour

Guardian obelisk glitch?

I have done some guardian material collection today, and I have remarked that all obelisks have this animation and sound : Source: https://youtu.be/PeAgCdM0PNw Did someone already notice that before? Or maybe it's a bug? In fact, we can say that all obelisks are trying to... compute...
forums.frontier.co.uk forums.frontier.co.uk
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Tbh I still think Raxxla and Guardians are definitely linked and the monoliths back this Theory mixed with human tech just by design alone, any loading screen especially station and codex has these exact same triangle movement function, Galmap itself can see every star and its exact location in the current galaxy and was introduced via the Pilots Federation through Universal Cartographics megacorp who issue this for free to every spaceship etc,If anything id say Raxxla is something found, exploited to a sense and our galnet and sub systems are a glimpse technological discovery made from it before they lost it,

They may have found it during the Thargoid war (or before leading the Thargoids to us in the first place) while chasing them to one of their staging points that used to be Guardian owned out by col 70 or beyond Guardian space, they may have retrieved a slight bit of techno wizardry to create what we have now and either didnt know it was Guardian in nature at the time or are hiding this fact, the fuel on war may be these same people driving us to war with the Thargoids to push us deeper into the Guardian rabbit hole to once again capture Raxxlas location! It may actually be a Guardian ark ship as previously mentioned, either Guardian, AI or automate controlled to avoid conflict and danger.

This above way would tie it into lore in a big way while also give it basis that Raxxla is infact in the game since gamma and we have been using a piece of it this whole time, this is also a good basis on the "making it a tiny bit obvious" comment while also adding in with the "being used by a lone person or sinister cabal" while also tieing in old lore whichever retconned.

It can be found by everyone and not only once, may refer to the monolith system and we don't know what it is "yet" may indicate we have infact already found it just haven't gained access to it, now I know the monolith system wasnt in the game since gamma however our galmap and system tech has been, it has been the only tech in game since launch that everyone in game could find, use and navigate the Universe using which also adds the "A gateway to other universes" meaning it may be a piece of the gate but also the key to unlocking it.

Our cross species tech is the key, we just have to find the gate, Guardians are "the creators of the door and" we "have the key to open it" ( It will eventually let us use it as we data mine and expand our Guardian cross technology which would tie storyline with everything else) also ties in the direction of Soontill and the Darkwheel, the Sap 8 core containers containing the Crystals, remember Soontill is very close to the closest Guardian ruins and also a marker for Thargoid activity, they may have been working with Guardian tech until the Thargoid war kicked off and all we got from it was Universal Carthographics Galmap for now. (Some ruins also Key shaped and we also have the Ancient Key, Guardian Key)

Guardian beacons are huge, just for a little key seems unlikely and us being able to proccess items as blueprints etc without prior knowledge is a bit strange, our systems knew what they where though ;)

All thin foil obviously
 
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