The Quest To Find Raxxla

[CMDRCorrMorningstarFelian]

Based on this from Wikipedia, citing an external source, it appears to be Brigid.

Cormac's Glossary, written by Christian scribes in the 9th century and based on earlier sources, says that Brigit was a goddess and daughter of the Dagda. It describes her as a "goddess of poets" and "woman of wisdom" or sage, who is also famous for her "protecting care". It says that Brigit has two sisters: Brigit the physician or "woman of healing", and Brigit the smith. It explains that from these, all goddesses in Ireland are called Brigit; suggesting that it "may have been more of a title than a personal name".

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Just a guess but maybe the name changes over the centuries.

Brigid - Wikipedia

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[Jorki Rasalas]

Cool.

I’m sold on Brigid, as it’s very close to Avalon, which ties to RH’s text. Here’s a short extract from my current notes (to be published soon).

‘Avalon - RH p18 vale of. RH talks of a Moon goddess associated with horses (Epona p27) p22 and a mystic earth goddess, naming Morgan La Fay as a possible link with the triad Celtic goddess ‘The Morrigan’, a fertility and war goddess p23. With Excalibur - Lady of the lake RH attributes with ‘Brigga’ p25 a water goddess. RH identifies here how water is a barrier between the real and these ‘otherworlds’. Morgan La Fay is mentioned again on p25 accompanying Arthur on his death barge with three hooded women or three queens, RH calls these the tri-partite goddess’ - Robert Holdstock Lost Realms.

Oh darn, you’ve started me googling again!
On tripartite goddess wikipedia says “Various triune or triple goddesses, or deities who appeared in groupings of three, were known to ancient religion. Well-known examples include Tridevi (Saraswati, Lakshmi, Kali)”...now we have GCS Sarasvati in-game as a megaship (unit 1?) from Project Thunderchild...so are there two other megaships to be found?

Triple Goddess (Neopaganism) - Wikipedia

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We did look a couple years ago but found nothing...so is this another hint to tri-via?

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It goes on to say “Diana (Artemis) also came to be viewed as a trinity of three goddesses in one, which were viewed as distinct aspects of a single divine being: "Diana as huntress, Diana as the moon, Diana of the underworld"...
so was MB’s use of Artemis in Legacy book a hint to Diana? Is there one in-game?? Ive already pointed out that Mother of Galaxies could well be Mother Gaia, i.e. Earth and the Moon could be the “jewel on her brow”

 

[Rochester]

Oh darn, you’ve started me googling again!
On tripartite goddess wikipedia says “Various triune or triple goddesses, or deities who appeared in groupings of three, were known to ancient religion. Well-known examples include Tridevi (Saraswati, Lakshmi, Kali)”...now we have GCS Sarasvati in-game as a megaship (unit 1?) from Project Thunderchild...so are there two other megaships to be found?

Triple Goddess (Neopaganism) - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

We did look a couple years ago but found nothing...so is this another hint to tri-via?

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It goes on to say “Diana (Artemis) also came to be viewed as a trinity of three goddesses in one, which were viewed as distinct aspects of a single divine being: "Diana as huntress, Diana as the moon, Diana of the underworld"...
so was MB’s use of Artemis in Legacy book a hint to Diana? Is there one in-game?? Ive already pointed out that Mother of Galaxies could well be Mother Gaia, i.e. Earth and the Moon could be the “jewel on her brow”

Negative, only a Daina!

RH does talk about Artemis….

Ge - is in game, she was the original Greek earth and mother-goddess.

We also have the 3 Norns! And the Fates and a whole bunch of Celtic ladies too… problem is they are all over the place!

There are however a bunch very close to Avalon! In RHs book he does repeat how the triads are gatekeepers.

From my on-going mapping of RHs book, I’m not only seeing a hotspot of systems (the lost realms) but I am also seeing a potential void in the data!

When we compile data and look for hotspots, intelligence gaps or voids may also arise visibly, these might not mean anything, however they can equally be informative, this one, just so happens to look like it’s close to the path of Brookes Tours and abutting the outer realm of Yggdrasil…

Initially it looks to me the Lost Realms are focused in a particular fulcrum, however these goddesses identified by RH in the same paragraphs are not., they are tellingly separate.

They are not distinct either, but relatively close and in very close relation to the path of the Brookes Tours… I know I’m repeating this, but it’s key.

In my opinion I am certain this confirms my hypothesis about the codex, in that it points to these Lost Realms, but what else is here?

I find it interesting the author places these ladies just below this area. Are these our conduits?

Below is a rough draft of my current findings. There are more chapters to map, but it’s far more complex than I originally hypothesised.

 

[CMDRCorrMorningstarFelian]

I looked and there is a mention of as above as below but this is not exact. Buried throughout "Magician: The lost journals of Magus Geoffrey Carlyle" are talks of alchemy, symbolism, and more with a great deal of emphasis on duality and how often this is illusional. At the very end, where he apparently beaten by major demon there is a symbol: "a strange spiraling pattern that must have been intended as a symbolic rendition of a maze that me could not escape". I believe this is supposed to be the Milky Way Galaxy. Every last one of the books has a Raxxla connection on the end section. The symbol was supposed to trap the major demon. It didn't and instead launched a fireball that was quite successful in nullifying the magus. The Lady of the Lake in Arthurian legend stops Merlin by trapping him in a series of invisible walls or transforming him into a tree. Anyway, factoring in the Capitol of the Federation is Olympic Village, Mars and Achenar being symbolic of Tartarus leads me to we need the Federation (Olympic Pantheon) to beat the Empire (Titans). Though, maybe not defeat so much as join forces. In any case, the Federation, I believe, represents the Oresrians or the Progressive branch Thargoids (Guardians). The Empire the Traditional branch Klaxxians (Mudlarks / builders of the stone glyphs).

When is a monster not a monster? When you love it. We appear to have made peace with the Progressives and as such peace with Traditional-branch is going to be ultra hard. I am thoroughly convinced, though, that the Guardians and Thargoids are similar but hate each other because of technology.

To find peace, we first have to find it with humanity. Humanity is being destroyed by the very same fight that destroyed the Thargoids/Guardians. Somehow the Lady of the Lake is the key to our future.

One other thing, I stumbled on a Impact Site that looked like a Pyramid which lacked a top in Taurus Dark Region. There was a crashed satellite at the site with cargo containers full of pods of machinery from humans. We must be in control of Raxxla itself.

Lady Of The Lake | Encyclopedia.com

Lady of the Lake The Lady of the Lake, an enchantress also known as Viviane or Nimuë, appears in many of the tales of King Arthur [1]. According to legend, she lived in a castle beneath a lake surrounding the mystical island of Avalon.

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[Darrack]

I did remember something else about Brighid from my time in Ireland (Innisfail - Island of Destiny), there's a statue of her in Kildare in the grounds of an old church (shes actually next to a well), the christians made her into a saint (they absorbed many of our names and festivals) and the church is actually built on an old Druidic sanctuary.
So shes linked with old and modern but yes also the triple goddess theory.

The cross

Not sure if any of this is relevant
I have a lot of old fable books, im sure there are plenty of stories about her, will have a look through and see if anything relates to our quest.

O7

 

[Shadowsnog]

arent these kind of crosses representing 4 seasons - rotation of big dipper (ursa major) on the sky during the year?
also kinda funny seeing taranis there ^^

 

[CMDRCorrMorningstarFelian]

Oh one other thing: Merlin is Peter Jameson but also all CMDRs (we are after all his grandchildren or possibly just clones via Project Thunderchild mentioned at GCS Saravasti). In other words, we are fighting ourselves, until we accept our true nature. This is why the letter in the manual of Frontier and First Encounters is addressed to Sirocco Station, Merlin, Ross 154. He is the many-formed trickster of the story. So, yes, Jameson is ancient beyond words. In an article about Holdstock's "The Broken Kings" he described Merlin as follows:

The Merlin in my cycle of stories, the Codex, is a configuration of ideas; the endlessly travelling traveller; the man outside of Time; the wise man and the Fool, embodied in the flesh; the shape-changer who challenges nature. Merlin is the consummate dream of Power over Nature and Weakness over Man.

 

[Darrack]

arent these kind of crosses representing 4 seasons - rotation of big dipper (ursa major) on the sky during the year?
also kinda funny seeing taranis there ^^

Ive been a Druid for over 40 years and i dont know anyone that can answer that question, truth is much of our culture is guess work as nothing was ever written down except works by the Romans and Christain authors who all had their own agendas.
Most things are centered around Three as in the Awen symbol.

Also there's a line in Peter Berresford Ellis's book 'The Origins Of The Druids' that says:

It has been argued that the closest parallel to Artemis, daughter of Zeus and twin sister of Apollo, was Brigit 'the exalted one'

O7

 

[Jorki Rasalas]

Negative, only a Daina!

RH does talk about Artemis….

Ge - is in game, she was the original Greek earth and mother-goddess.

We also have the 3 Norns! And the Fates and a bunch of Celtic ladies too… problem is they are all over the place!

There are however a bunch very close to Avalon! In RH book he does repeat how the triads are gatekeepers.

From my on-going mapping of RHs book, I’m not only seeing a hotspot of systems (the lost realms) but I am also seeing a potential void in the data!

When we compile data and look for hotspots, intelligence gaps or voids may also arise visibly, these might not mean anything, however they can equally be informative, this one, just so happens to look like it’s close to the path of Brookes Tours and abutting the outer realm of Yggdrasil…

Don’t think we’re going to be closer to a solution, but I suspect it at most confirms my hypothesis the codex does point to the Lost Realms sector…

Mmm, still pondering triple goddess relating to the asterisk at the centre of the Raxxla logo. Not convinced that relates to Hecate because she was the goddess of the tri-via, a “Y-junction”, not an asterisk.

Googling asterisk+goddess led me to https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asherah
“Asherah functioned as a goddess and a consort of Yahweh and was worshiped as the queen of heaven” and
“Asherah, Astarte and Anat were the only three prominent goddesses in the religion of the ancient Levant, and formed a trinity.”

But at the moment I’m bamboozled as to how this relates to asterisk....

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Asterisk - Wikipedia

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still cant see anything relevant...only thing I can think of is the asterisk has six-fold symmetry, which is reminiscent of Guardian symbology.

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The asterisk from Late Latin asteriscus, from Ancient Greek ἀστερίσκος, asteriskos, "little star"....so is it saying Raxxla is a “little star”....e.g. a black hole or NS?

 

[El Saico]

Turns out EDSM's code is open source, so I borrowed its calculations for galactic coordinates and applied it to a system dump - after a series of mishaps and trying to understand what things mean, success!

This should make it easier to focus on specific regions of the Earthly sky...

 

[CMDRCorrMorningstarFelian]

Mmm, still pondering triple goddess relating to the asterisk at the centre of the Raxxla logo. Not convinced that relates to Hecate because she was the goddess of the tri-via, a “Y-junction”, not an asterisk.

Diana was the Roman equivalent of both Artemis and Hecate. Also, your asterisk is formed by 2 3-way splits that are inverted. As above, so below...

Diana was known by a number of epithets over the centuries. For her tripartite personality, she was known as both Diana Triformis and Diana Trivia. She was also called Diana Caelus, or “Heavenly Diana,” a common epithet amongst the members of the Roman pantheon.

There is also Diana Lucifera (see wikipedia).

Where do think this rune (ᛉ or ᛤ) comes from?

The Triple Deity or Third Way

Diana – Mythopedia

Diana was the Roman goddess of the hunt, unspoiled nature, and the boundaries separating wild from civilized, living from dead. Master of the bow, she roamed the wilderness seeking adventure and hunting game.

mythopedia.com

Diana (mythology) - Wikipedia

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Triple deity - Wikipedia

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[Rochester]

I did remember something else about Brighid from my time in Ireland (Innisfail - Island of Destiny), there's a statue of her in Kildare in the grounds of an old church (shes actually next to a well), the christians made her into a saint (they absorbed many of our names and festivals) and the church is actually built on an old Druidic sanctuary.
So shes linked with old and modern but yes also the triple goddess theory.

The cross

Not sure if any of this is relevant
I have a lot of old fable books, im sure there are plenty of stories about her, will have a look through and see if anything relates to our quest.

O7

Brigid is sometimes known as a triad goddess also worshipped in conjunction with Cernunnos - both are in game.

In RH text he alludes some link between Brigga and Cernunnos, so it very likely is Brigid.

This was just to confirm that system in game as being related, as Cernunnos and Brigid are very close together.

 

[Han_Zen]

Brigid is sometimes known as a triad goddess also worshipped in conjunction with Cernunnos - both are in game.

In RH text he alludes some link between Brigga and Cernunnos, so it very likely is Brigid.

This was just to confirm that system in game as being related, as Cernunnos and Brigid are very close together.

The names of the deity changes with culture and time. The story remains the same.
As the codex says with regards to Raxxla 'The earliest documented stories tend to agree on several points'. The same can be said for the stories of the triple deities.
The good in question will usually have an aspect that travels to the underworld. This journey takes place periodically. Usually in autumn or in the evening. They would then return to the upperworld in the morning or in spring.
The triple deities do also in a majority of cases have at least one aspect connected to the Moon. Sometimes all three aspects are symbolised by the waning, ull and waxing Moon.

If the old myths and religions in the context of the ED universe are based on ancient extra terrestrial activity on earth, we can theorise that the 'goods' used Raxxla to travel to both earth and to the underworld.
Some of these entities were locked in the underworld, some of them had to travel there periodically. Very few had the ability to travel freely between the different realms, but it seems that it was trivial for most upperworld inhabitants to access earth.

In conclusion:

If this is the way FD has constructed the Raxxla mystery, we can assume that.

• Raxxla may give access to two different realms of some kind.
• Raxxla may only be active at certain times.
• The Moon or a moon is somehow important.

The Moon bit is difficult to guess. Is it simply that Raxxla is a moon or do earths moon hold any secrets? The moon can give time, it can give direction (plane / axis) and it can have an actual secret. I'm lost on this one, but I still think it may be important.

 

[Rochester]

The whole triad business could simply be a positional clue. Eg Artemis etc = Persephone, eg the Underworld area, likewise Epona etc = Avalon eg the lost realms area…

The Lost Realms are really packed into one location. It could just be as simple as ‘look here’?

 

[Han_Zen]

The whole triad business could simply be a positional clue. Eg Artemis etc = Persephone, eg the Underworld area, likewise Epona etc = Avalon eg the lost realms area…

The Lost Realms are really packed into one location. It could just be as simple as ‘look here’?

I think they are packed in one region because they are taken from the same list of names. You find these clusters of connected names all over the bubble.
Before release FD had to give names to all the inhabited systems that didn't have one after star catalogues and the old games names had been added.
They probably used lists like you find on this page: https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lists_of_deities
These were used to fill the holes. Clumping of similar / connected names is bound to happen, when you do this. It also ads a bit of flavour to the bubble, so there is no reason to randomize it.

There might be a few manually named systems, but not the hundreds of systems that falls in to this pattern.

From an ingame perspective it would also be very strange. Why would the handfull of people(NPCs) that actually know where Raxxla is and try to keep it secret from everyone else, go around naming systems that point to Raxxla. Even if they had the power to name any system, I don't see their motivation for painting arrows in the sky.

 

[Jorki Rasalas]

I think they are packed in one region because they are taken from the same list of names. You find these clusters of connected names all over the bubble.
Before release FD had to give names to all the inhabited systems that didn't have one after star catalogues and the old games names had been added.
They probably used lists like you find on this page: https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lists_of_deities
These were used to fill the holes. Clumping of similar / connected names is bound to happen, when you do this. It also ads a bit of flavour to the bubble, so there is no reason to randomize it.

There might be a few manually named systems, but not the hundreds of systems that falls in to this pattern.

From an ingame perspective it would also be very strange. Why would the handfull of people(NPCs) that actually know where Raxxla is and try to keep it secret from everyone else, go around naming systems that point to Raxxla. Even if they had the power to name any system, I don't see their motivation for painting arrows in the sky.

Because they were named by MB, the setter of the puzzle, as clues...

 

[Han_Zen]

Because they were named by MB, the setter of the puzzle, as clues...

I doubt that MB would make Raxxla a meta pusle. There is no reason to do that. There are plenty of RL stars and constelations that can be used to make a connection to mythology.

 

[Rochester]

If such systems we’re generated by an algorithm or simple list, I would image such names would be spread wide across the bubble.

Thing is, they are not. There is a behavioural trail here, a hotspot of locations. If this is an algorithm it’s an example of a bug. Maybe someone should post a ticket

Secondly these systems all tie in with the description within the codex, Atlantis etc, thirdly these systems names are given in Robert Holdstocks Lost Realms book within the introduction chapter.

Fourth, we have Demeter positioned in alignment with Persephone, pointing to this area. Fifth we have this location falling along a projected sphere of influence made by the date 2296… then the path of Brookes Tour intersects this area! Oh and Yggdrasil… I could go on and on, I am just repeating what’s already been posted.

At a minimum it’s an Easter Egg, but the codex I believe with a good deal of experience in plotting is telling us something about this sector.

 

[CMDRCorrMorningstarFelian]

I doubt that MB would make Raxxla a meta pusle. There is no reason to do that. There are plenty of RL stars and constelations that can be used to make a connection to mythology.

I hate be bearer of this news: the lore is so "meta" that we had to figure out if it was the same Universe. Also, there was the tiny little matter uncovering fact vs fiction in Old World's region between Lavian propaganda, ship manufacturer buy-outs to bury some history of specific ships, and then there is the Imperials trying to hide just how much control they exert on the Old Worlds Coalition region. That is just the tip of the proverbial iceberg.

The Codex Knowledge Base section on individuals has little lessons buried in each entry in the section. Read them. They are ideas that appear to apply to the larger story including Raxxla and The Dark Wheel.

I would strongly suggest you start trying to figure out why Vetitice is in the very heart of GalCenter G1. Also, if Lave wasn't a dictatorship prior to Walden your problems are multiplying rapidly.

The fact that Lave is a dictatorship in the first game should terrify CMDRs. That singular fact on its' very own is more than capable of shifting the commonly understood and assumed timelines. Small details can have big consequences.

 

[Han_Zen]

If such systems we’re generated by an algorithm or simple list, I would image such names would be spread wide across the bubble.

Thing is, they are not. There is a behavioural trail here, a hotspot of locations. If this is an algorithm it’s an example of a bug. Maybe someone should post a ticket

Secondly these systems all tie in with the description within the codex, Atlantis etc, thirdly these systems names are given in Robert Holdstocks Lost Realms book within the introduction chapter.

Fourth, we have Demeter positioned in alignment with Persephone, pointing to this area. Fifth we have this location falling along a projected sphere of influence made by the date 2296… then the path of Brookes Tour intersects this area! Oh and Yggdrasil… I could go on and on, I am just repeating what’s already been posted.

At a minimum it’s an Easter Egg, but the codex I believe with a good deal of experience in plotting is telling us something about this sector.

Take the lost realms systems as an example. You have the names in ‘the names’ list, after each other.
When you append this list to the ‘systems that need a name’ list, it is reasonable that the end up in systems close to each other.

Doing it this way is easy and as a bonus you get a sense of regional connection between systems.