I have an idea, though I think it's silly, but it's interesting:
You can only see RAXXLA in flight on Cobra Mk III.
Interesting idea but may need some refinement. That isn't the oldest ship by a long-shot. I believe in-service date was sometime in 3100. The following are known to be older: Viper (approx. 2762), Lakon Spaceways Transporter (Type-6 - pre-2500), Sidewinder Mk I (2982), Python (2700 - discontinued), Krait (3027), Cobra Mk I (2895), Boa (replaced Python - 3017), Lakon Spaceways Asp Mk II (2878), Lakon Spaceways Asp Mk I (unknown), Anaconda (2856), Adder (2914), and it is entirely possible that all Saud Kruger (original company history presently indeterminable) ships predate even Lakon Spaceways (specific origins unknown but linked to Sol) given the universality of Astrogator Console and the organization's ties to Augustus Brenquith.

Apparently, we should possibly be investigating why things connected the Underworld and Oceans are so damned ancient. The Cobra and especially the Cobra Mk III are known to be favored by The Dark Wheel. Perhaps there is a connection.
 
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Interesting idea but may need some refinement. That isn't the oldest ship by a long-shot. I believe in-service date was sometime in 3100. The following are known to be older: Viper (approx. 2762), Lakon Spaceways Transporter (Type-6 - pre-2500), Sidewinder Mk I (2982), Python (2700 - discontinued), Krait (3027), Cobra Mk I (2895), Boa (replaced Python - 3017), Lakon Spaceways Asp Mk II (2878), Lakon Spaceways Asp Mk I (unknown), Anaconda (2856), Adder (2914), and it is entirely possible that all Saud Kruger (original company history presently indeterminable) ships predate even Lakon Spaceways (specific origins unknown but linked to Sol) given the universality of Astrogator Console and the organization's ties to Augustus Brenquith.

Apparently, we should possibly be investigating why things connected the Underworld and Oceans are so damned ancient. The Cobra and especially the Cobra Mk III are known to be favored by The Dark Wheel. Perhaps there is a connection.
In Elite 1 we played only Cobra mk3, in the novel Dark Wheel also had it. And I also heard on the forum, I don't remember exactly, but the creator of the game prefers to fly it. I don't know why.
 
In Elite 1 we played only Cobra mk3, in the novel Dark Wheel also had it. And I also heard on the forum, I don't remember exactly, but the creator of the game prefers to fly it. I don't know why.
Snakes on a spaceship, perhaps 🐍🚀😂

Also, weren't Raxxlans supposed to have been reptilian? If so, maybe that was the snake inspiration.

Please tell me Elite Dangerous wasn't partly inspired by that nutcase David Icke and his Illuminati reptile-people. Granted, the first game manual is awfully damn fond of the term humanoid (and stranger still rarely substituted the term human).
 
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The "Ancients of Mumu" connection actually gets interesting as it connects to a Mesopotamian God, the Illuminatus! trilogy by Robert Shea and Robert Anton Wilson, and Philippine mythology.

Please tell me Elite Dangerous wasn't partly inspired by that nutcase David Icke and his Illuminati reptile-people. Granted, the first game manual is awfully damn fond of the term humanoid (and stranger still rarely substituted the term human.

Damn it. Well, this should prove to be entertaining at the very minimum. So, in that case do you really want to connected to The Dark Wheel? Between them and The Club, the sane choice may be neither.
 
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Snakes on a spaceship, perhaps 🐍🚀😂

Also, weren't Raxxlans supposed to have been reptilian? If so, maybe that was the snake inspiration.

Please tell me Elite Dangerous wasn't partly inspired by that nutcase David Icke and his Illuminati reptile-people. Granted, the first game manual is awfully damn fond of the term humanoid (and stranger still rarely substituted the term human).
Considering that the original game came out with the Dark Wheel Novella in 84 and Icke was doing sports news until 85 it's highly doubtful he was in any way an inspiration behind Raxxla and Raxxlans.
 
Considering that the original game came out with the Dark Wheel Novella in 84 and Icke was doing sports news until 85 it's highly doubtful he was in any way an inspiration behind Raxxla and Raxxlans.
Sadly, the Reptile-people conspiracy got it's start from comics in 1929 which themselves were heavily influenced by Gnosticism and Theosophy (this plays at least some role in the myths and religious ideas in Elite Dangerous). These ideas seem especially connected with the "Revised Catholic Mission" in Aymiay. These folks apparently run Aymiay, Mars in Sol (the capital of the Federation is Olympic Village, Mars), and Beta Hydri, and thus way well feed into The Dark Wheel myth itself as they seem to connected with the palm tree stations and especially Black Mausoleum.

Relevant paragraph from Reptile-People Conspiracy Wikipedia entry:

Michael Barkun, professor of political science at Syracuse University, posits that the idea of a reptilian conspiracy originated in the fiction of Conan the Barbarian creator Robert E. Howard, in his story "The Shadow Kingdom", published in Weird Tales in August 1929.[9] This story drew on theosophical ideas of the "lost worlds" of Atlantis and Lemuria, particularly Helena Blavatsky's The Secret Doctrine written in 1888, with its reference to "'dragon-men' who once had a mighty civilization on a Lemurian continent".[10][11]

For the record: Robert Holdstock wrote some pretty wild stuff. I don't know what to feel after having had to cite cultural origins of that particular conspiracy theory. This is not something I expected to be brought into this. Oh well, the story is awesome.
 
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I am thinking another pass at timelines is in order. Given recent discussion these appear to be the most likely candidate to have discovered Raxxla:

-Federation or Founder colony (early Federation discovery scenario).
-Lakon Spaceways/Galactic Navy
-Sirius Corporation (either Sol or in/near Sirius)
-Marlin Duval
-Marlinists
-Art Tornquist or family member
-Imperial Navy
-Gutamaya (dependent on founding date)
-Augustus Brenquith/Jaques (depending on timing of Battle of Hell's Gate - candidate battle is mentioned in both Federal and Imperial Navy codexes (Jaques is lying scenario).

Dredgers appear to not be an option given Scrivener University (later absorbed by Orion University) doesn't commission their dredger (J-403) until 3088. A quick review of the unofficial timeline of all games and books appears to indicate this may not be the first Dredger. However, earliest these are possibly built is still a disqualifier given the date is in the 2330s.
 
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I liked the idea of looking at the Guardian Beacons - so I compared them with their associated structures (well at least the ones I could find)

9QHXxns.jpg
 
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I liked the idea of looking at the Guardian Beacons - so I compared them with their associated structures (well at least the ones I could find)

9QHXxns.jpg
Your diagram shows two beacons at top left corner with no associated structures?

Maybe they’re all Raxxla? Perhaps “Raxxla” is the Guardians’ name for a beacon, or a site?
“You don’t know what it is!”
 
Your diagram shows two beacons at top left corner with no associated structures?

Maybe they’re all Raxxla? Perhaps “Raxxla” is the Guardians’ name for a beacon, or a site?
“You don’t know what it is!”

Ya i dont have data for those two.
just playing with the idea that raxxla is the origin planet for guardians so if we backtrack their spread…. I just keep reading what u wrote as “Raxxla is the guardian name for bacon” - now im hungry
 
I knew the Thargoid bases were connected, but I didn't know the guards' ruins were connected to the guards' beacons.
I correctly understood that if the guards base is not working (ruins), it means it has no beacon?
 
Ya i dont have data for those two.
just playing with the idea that raxxla is the origin planet for guardians so if we backtrack their spread…. I just keep reading what u wrote as “Raxxla is the guardian name for bacon” - now im hungry
I wormed the copawlot yesterday & was awaiting results. Made him sleep in the kitchen last night & got up early to take him in the garden at 06:30. Was tempted to make myself a bacon butty for breakfast, but decided to keep that treat for tomorrow’s lunch & had healthy porridge instead, with honey & blueberries 😋
 
Your diagram shows two beacons at top left corner with no associated structures?

Maybe they’re all Raxxla? Perhaps “Raxxla” is the Guardians’ name for a beacon, or a site?
“You don’t know what
I liked the idea of looking at the Guardian Beacons - so I compared them with their associated structures (well at least the ones I could find)

9QHXxns.jpg
Oh my God you’re a jewel❤️Ty❤️
 
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