"The Fifth Element"??? Oh, no, that's not a series...
"Red Dwarf"???
"Monte Python's Flying Circus"???
-
Greetings Commander, want a more instant approach to your questions and need for help? Check out the Galactic Academy Discord server!
Feel free to join the Galactic Academy Discord server by clicking here!
Newcomer / Intro What are you up to?
- Thread starter Tyres O'Flaherty
- Start date
"Red Dwarf"???
"Monte Python's Flying Circus"???
The scene works better when you already know all the characters:
It's because she cares about you. She will be telling you to wrap up warm, next.
![]M[](https://forums-cdn.zaonce.net/data/avatars/m/231/231285.jpg?1702725976){kind=avatar}
All good - just run if she mentions
Thanks I will double check those settings.
Yikes - when you're left stranded like that with the SRV gone, the ship can be 2 kilometers or more away. (As it has been for me on a few occasions, but I'm able to dismiss and recall.)
FDev really does need to make this bug a top priority fix I'd say and really should have addressed it when they fixed all that Thargoid stuff...
I hole heartedly agree. Screen shots from the black and more Thargoid sensor fragments.Yikes - when you're left stranded like that with the SRV gone, the ship can be 2 kilometers or more away. (As it has been for me on a few occasions, but I'm able to dismiss and recall.)
FDev really does need to make this bug a top priority fix I'd say and really should have addressed it when they fixed all that Thargoid stuff...
I've been doing some laser Tritium mining in the Python to make a change from hunting for salad. Also to find out for myself exactly how much of a grind this exercise really is. So far though not too bad, especially after my latest mining in this screenshot:
As I mentioned before somewhere, the last mining I did was back in my 2015 stint and I'd forgotten how to do it. This is my progress so far in various systems I've visited in this trip along the way:
Started off by laser mining any old rock in a hotspot, then attempting to collect fragments by targeting them and aiming for them in the cargo hatch rectangle - hard to do and very, very time consuming to get - well none at all really so soon gave up on that one.
Then I discovered how to use limpets and was targeting the fragments and collecting one at a time using collector limpets - still a very slow process and would take maybe 20 minutes to refine just a single ton...
Then I discovered how to use prospector limpets to see which rocks looked like having the highest Tritium yield, but was still collecting one fragment at a time with the collector limpets, resulting in not getting much more Tritium than before and still very time consuming...
Then suddenly by accident, I discovered that if I had no fragments targeted at all, I could just laser mine a rock till it was depleted and the collector limpets would just go out by themselves and auto-collect everything! I could even go and make a cup of tea and a sandwich while this was happening! When I came back, there would be maybe 4 or 5 tons of Tritium refined, so a definite improvement there.
After that I noticed that I had a Pulse Wave Scanner fitted but not given a fire group, so I did that and started using it, to find that some rocks were lit up like a Christmas tree. I then started targeting those with a prospector limpet and found that quite often they would show a good Tritium yield and I was getting quite good results for a while, apart from using up a fair amount of time finding the lit up rocks and moving to within range.
However, on this latest mining stint in the screenshot, I found that sometimes even the brightly lit rocks would be false positives with no Tritium and sometimes even show depleted, even though I had moved on into a different area so was not targeting a rock from before. So I got fed up with this and thought "what if I just fire a prospector limpet at any old rock, without using the Pulse Wave Scanner, such as the closest big one even when it's not lit up see what the result is? And found that they still usually contained a lot of Tritium which I could auto-collect and not waste a lot of time moving around using the PWS. (I do have all other stuff in the rocks on ignore by the way, so the limpets only go for the trit.)
So I ended up collecting 42 tons of Tritium, most of which was done in the last 30 minutes or so after I stopped wasting a lot of time with the PWS. And I reckon that now I've found all that out, with a decent hotspot I should be able to greatly improve what I get next time in a much shorter time. We'll see...
As I mentioned before somewhere, the last mining I did was back in my 2015 stint and I'd forgotten how to do it. This is my progress so far in various systems I've visited in this trip along the way:
Started off by laser mining any old rock in a hotspot, then attempting to collect fragments by targeting them and aiming for them in the cargo hatch rectangle - hard to do and very, very time consuming to get - well none at all really so soon gave up on that one.
Then I discovered how to use limpets and was targeting the fragments and collecting one at a time using collector limpets - still a very slow process and would take maybe 20 minutes to refine just a single ton...
Then I discovered how to use prospector limpets to see which rocks looked like having the highest Tritium yield, but was still collecting one fragment at a time with the collector limpets, resulting in not getting much more Tritium than before and still very time consuming...
Then suddenly by accident, I discovered that if I had no fragments targeted at all, I could just laser mine a rock till it was depleted and the collector limpets would just go out by themselves and auto-collect everything! I could even go and make a cup of tea and a sandwich while this was happening! When I came back, there would be maybe 4 or 5 tons of Tritium refined, so a definite improvement there.
After that I noticed that I had a Pulse Wave Scanner fitted but not given a fire group, so I did that and started using it, to find that some rocks were lit up like a Christmas tree. I then started targeting those with a prospector limpet and found that quite often they would show a good Tritium yield and I was getting quite good results for a while, apart from using up a fair amount of time finding the lit up rocks and moving to within range.
However, on this latest mining stint in the screenshot, I found that sometimes even the brightly lit rocks would be false positives with no Tritium and sometimes even show depleted, even though I had moved on into a different area so was not targeting a rock from before. So I got fed up with this and thought "what if I just fire a prospector limpet at any old rock, without using the Pulse Wave Scanner, such as the closest big one even when it's not lit up see what the result is? And found that they still usually contained a lot of Tritium which I could auto-collect and not waste a lot of time moving around using the PWS. (I do have all other stuff in the rocks on ignore by the way, so the limpets only go for the trit.)
So I ended up collecting 42 tons of Tritium, most of which was done in the last 30 minutes or so after I stopped wasting a lot of time with the PWS. And I reckon that now I've found all that out, with a decent hotspot I should be able to greatly improve what I get next time in a much shorter time. We'll see...
I had this same breakthrough...
Have you tried laser mining in a Metallic Ring Platinum hotspot yet?
The next thing to discover is that if you target stuff you don’t want collected and look at it in the contacts screen you can set it to be ignored which will stop your limpets wasting there time and your space collecting them, which is also useful as it means you can stop them bringing in something stolen and making you a criminal when not ready for it.I've been doing some laser Tritium mining in the Python to make a change from hunting for salad. Also to find out for myself exactly how much of a grind this exercise really is. So far though not too bad, especially after my latest mining in this screenshot:
…
Then I discovered how to use limpets and was targeting the fragments and collecting one at a time using collector limpets - still a very slow process and would take maybe 20 minutes to refine just a single ton...
Then I discovered how to use prospector limpets to see which rocks looked like having the highest Tritium yield, but was still collecting one fragment at a time with the collector limpets, resulting in not getting much more Tritium than before and still very time consuming...
Then suddenly by accident, I discovered that if I had no fragments targeted at all, I could just laser mine a rock till it was depleted and the collector limpets would just go out by themselves and auto-collect everything! I could even go and make a cup of tea and a sandwich while this was happening! When I came back, there would be maybe 4 or 5 tons of Tritium refined, so a definite improvement there.
…
I seem to be in a vein, found a Co2 moon with 8 biosigns 7 of which are codex's, the sun is a shining on me. Little bit of Cacti.
First time I've seen this verity of Frutexa.
Osseus Discus, very spread out but easy to spot
Always some Fungus lurking about.
Same moon, just moved to the dunes, new to me Tussock.
Finally, some strange Bacteria.
First time I've seen this verity of Frutexa.
Osseus Discus, very spread out but easy to spot
Always some Fungus lurking about.
Same moon, just moved to the dunes, new to me Tussock.
Finally, some strange Bacteria.
I did think about trying that, but haven't tried it so far. Thanks for that suggestion though! I also came across an ordinary asteroid belt once with icy rings and thought about trying that but then discovered it couldn't be mapped for hotspots, so didn't want to possibly waste time by going back to the carrier and swapping the Asp X for the Python then jumping to that system in that. Next time I find one of those though, maybe I'll give any old rock in one of those a go to see if any good.
Yup, I did mention that I already did that. My clever auto-collect robot limpets only go for the Tritium.
Time for a burger and a grape snow cone.
I did think about trying that, but haven't tried it so far. Thanks for that suggestion though! I also came across an ordinary asteroid belt once with icy rings and thought about trying that but then discovered it couldn't be mapped for hotspots, so didn't want to possibly waste time by going back to the carrier and swapping the Asp X for the Python then jumping to that system in that. Next time I find one of those though, maybe I'll give any old rock in one of those a go to see if any good.
Yup, I did mention that I already did that. My clever auto-collect robot limpets only go for the Tritium.
Since i’m on a bit of an FC-based exploration trip as it is, i think i’ll give Tritium mining a go again. Have a fairly good amount of fuel stock on board, but interested to see if yields from pristine hotspots out here can extend that range significantly, without eating up too much of my exploration & exobiology time - ship of choice will be the T-10 Mining Monstah with lots of lovely rock-frying lasers… :]
[old pic from home-brewed Eyefinity setup]
Hmmm... I don't have a Type 10 in my fleet atm, but just looked it up and saw you can get a pretty good cargo capacity, so next time in a station with one of those available maybe I'll buy one. I'm currently about 17,000 LY from Sol though and nowhere near any stations. Still, the Python's not bad so I'll carry on with that in the meantime.
Your post contains just about every question normally asked about mining, and the solutions, which you figured out yourself. Impressive.I've been doing some laser Tritium mining in the Python to make a change from hunting for salad. Also to find out for myself exactly how much of a grind this exercise really is. So far though not too bad, especially after my latest mining in this screenshot:
View attachment 347146
As I mentioned before somewhere, the last mining I did was back in my 2015 stint and I'd forgotten how to do it. This is my progress so far in various systems I've visited in this trip along the way:
Started off by laser mining any old rock in a hotspot, then attempting to collect fragments by targeting them and aiming for them in the cargo hatch rectangle - hard to do and very, very time consuming to get - well none at all really so soon gave up on that one.
Then I discovered how to use limpets and was targeting the fragments and collecting one at a time using collector limpets - still a very slow process and would take maybe 20 minutes to refine just a single ton...
Then I discovered how to use prospector limpets to see which rocks looked like having the highest Tritium yield, but was still collecting one fragment at a time with the collector limpets, resulting in not getting much more Tritium than before and still very time consuming...
Then suddenly by accident, I discovered that if I had no fragments targeted at all, I could just laser mine a rock till it was depleted and the collector limpets would just go out by themselves and auto-collect everything! I could even go and make a cup of tea and a sandwich while this was happening! When I came back, there would be maybe 4 or 5 tons of Tritium refined, so a definite improvement there.
After that I noticed that I had a Pulse Wave Scanner fitted but not given a fire group, so I did that and started using it, to find that some rocks were lit up like a Christmas tree. I then started targeting those with a prospector limpet and found that quite often they would show a good Tritium yield and I was getting quite good results for a while, apart from using up a fair amount of time finding the lit up rocks and moving to within range.
However, on this latest mining stint in the screenshot, I found that sometimes even the brightly lit rocks would be false positives with no Tritium and sometimes even show depleted, even though I had moved on into a different area so was not targeting a rock from before. So I got fed up with this and thought "what if I just fire a prospector limpet at any old rock, without using the Pulse Wave Scanner, such as the closest big one even when it's not lit up see what the result is? And found that they still usually contained a lot of Tritium which I could auto-collect and not waste a lot of time moving around using the PWS. (I do have all other stuff in the rocks on ignore by the way, so the limpets only go for the trit.)
So I ended up collecting 42 tons of Tritium, most of which was done in the last 30 minutes or so after I stopped wasting a lot of time with the PWS. And I reckon that now I've found all that out, with a decent hotspot I should be able to greatly improve what I get next time in a much shorter time. We'll see...
To clarify, the Pulse Wave Analyzer is for Core and sub-surface mining. It will light up rocks that have either cores, surface deposits, or sub-surface deposits. It doesn't have anything to do with laser mining, and it does not specify what sort of ore (ie the hotspot type is not considered). It was introduced with Core mining, and is intended to show asteroids that might have the new features.
So, if you're laser mining the PWA has no use.
And some detail on how limpets work:
- If you target something, the limpet will fly quickly to that item, pick it up, bring it back, and self-destruct.
- If you target nothing, the limpet will fly slower, but will collect anything that's collectable, that is not on your ignore list, and that is in range, bring it back, and then go looking for more. It will do this until the limpet lifetime expires. It will follow your ship around if you move.
By the way, when mining was first introduced to the game (in the very early years) there were no limpets. You had to manually scoop the fragments as you were doing at first. Mining was much less fun back then
Thanks! Re the core mining, I do have the sub-surface thingies fitted but so far, not had much luck with them so for now I just stick with laser. Also have those seismic nuke things and watched a video about them and they do look like tremendous fun, but not sure yet how you make them explode in Odyssey (I think the video I saw was an old Horizons one.) Also not sure how far away I need to move so I don't blow myself and my ship upYour post contains just about every question normally asked about mining, and the solutions, which you figured out yourself. Impressive.
To clarify, the Pulse Wave Analyzer is for Core and sub-surface mining. It will light up rocks that have either cores, surface deposits, or sub-surface deposits. It doesn't have anything to do with laser mining, and it does not specify what sort of ore (ie the hotspot type is not considered). It was introduced with Core mining, and is intended to show asteroids that might have the new features.
So, if you're laser mining the PWA has no use.
And some detail on how limpets work:
- If you target something, the limpet will fly quickly to that item, pick it up, bring it back, and self-destruct.
- If you target nothing, the limpet will fly slower, but will collect anything that's collectable, that is not on your ignore list, and that is in range, bring it back, and then go looking for more. It will do this until the limpet lifetime expires. It will follow your ship around if you move.
By the way, when mining was first introduced to the game (in the very early years) there were no limpets. You had to manually scoop the fragments as you were doing at first. Mining was much less fun back then
but anyway, for now I'm not even attempting to use them as I want to persevere with lasers, at least for now.Yeah, Core mining is a whole 'nother thing. It's a lot of fun, but more complex than laser mining. Subsurface stuff is also interesting and fun, but you have to learn how to use the missiles properly (hold and release when in the right spot -- hard to explain without a video). It's bugged now, though, and doesn't really work that well.Thanks! Re the core mining, I do have the sub-surface thingies fitted but so far, not had much luck with them so for now I just stick with laser. Also have those seismic nuke things and watched a video about them and they do look like tremendous fun, but not sure yet how you make them explode in Odyssey (I think the video I saw was an old Horizons one.) Also not sure how far away I need to move so I don't blow myself and my ship up
Laser mining is also generally faster and more profitable nowadays.
I miss the days when all the mining tools worked right, and all forms of mining were profitable and usable. It used to make sense to carry all the mining tools, but not any more.
Oh well.