What species are missing for you to complete your local zoo?

Ok this is a long one, but I wanted to breakdown the two zoos of Zoo New England. So that would be Stone Zoo and Franklin Park Zoo. Before my breakdown, I’ll give a tldr:

TLDR: with broad strokes you will do alright recreating them, but as you can all imagine I would say, lack of suitable birds makes this a massive struggle. Mods can help, but that’s putting a bandaid over an issue Frontier should have at least helped to address.

I’ll begin with Franklin Park Zoo:
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Like I said, focusing on broad strokes you will do alright. As you can see, PZ has a lot of the more major mammals you would need. Gorillas, giraffes, lions, hyenas, red pandas, kangaroos. You could at the very least, get a pretty close summation of FPZ. Even more shocking was surprise animals like the prairie dog! The barnyard I have listed as “close enough” as the breeds from the Barnyard pack are “close enough” in use it shouldn’t be an issue. Except for two things: the Poitou donkey, a very famous endangered breed. Also, the barn owl. Otherwise, won’t be too bad.

However, here is where the issues begin:
  1. In the children’s area is a meshed in aviary for waterfowl. As you can imagine you are just out of luck. Nothing you can do. The mute swan wouldn’t make sense for an area made for ducks.
  2. In the African area there is the wattled crane and the Kori bustard. Once again, out of luck.
  3. In the Australian section is the budgie habitat, black swans, and a cockatoo. Nothing can be done there.
  4. With the tropical forest you can honestly get pretty close. Though issues show up once again. No monkeys, so no debrazzas or cotton top tamarins. No birds like the yellow billed or saddled storks. No waterfowl. No Pygmy falcon. Once again, on broad strokes you can recreate the most famous area of Franklin Park Zoo.
  5. Finally, the bird area. You are just screwed. Ain’t no two ways about it. No ducks, no flying birds, no condors, no kea. Nothing.
So overall for a score I would place it a 7/10 for being able to creat it in PZ. The main issue being an entire section of the zoo is either left empty or is a hollow shell. Not having specific birds I would need is fine, having nothing for specific sections is egregious.

Now we move on to Stone Zoo.
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Once again, Stone Zoo I would actually place lower than Franklin Park Zoo. It would be a 4/10. I messed up a bit on my cruddy note taking, but the more I look at it the more that is missing. Once again, I’ll cover the areas.
  1. The Caribbean section is just a big, fat, NO. If we got the American flamingo I honestly think it would be fine. But no flamingo, scarlet ibis, macaw, bush dog, or goldeneye ducks is not cool. In this area is the Jamaican iguana, but with the Antillean iguana is alright.
  2. The Yukon Creek also suffers a lot. No Canadian lynx, no black bear, no porcupine, no bald eagle. Yes to the reindeer and the arctic fox. Specifically the black bear is a huge loss, they are fairly popular and famous amongst the animals in the zoo, being rescued as cubs.
  3. Of all the places in the game, the Sierra Madre is probably the closest in broad strokes. The jaguar, peccary, cougar, and Gila monster and other exhibits can help make a fairly accurate recreation. Once again though, no birds hurt a bit, namely the roadrunner. The lack of coati, peregrine falcon, coati, and free tailed bats also doesn’t help.
  4. I messed up my notes a bit here, but the windows to the wild + surrounding areas also suffer greatly. Here is what we do have in Planet Zoo: the large tortoises. That’s it. Now I haven’t mentioned substitutions a lot, but using the Asian small clawed otter and lar gibbon over the North American river otter and white cheeked gibbon can work. In terms of purpose and looks they may be deemed close enough. Now for what we don’t have: hyrax, Brazilian porcupine, two toed sloth, macaws, hornbills, agoutis, tamarins, colobus monkeys. It suffers greatly.
  5. Finally for the last area it is the himilayan and Mexican wolves. For the himilayan area we don’t have the yak. But with the markhor and snow leopard I’ll still say it’s good enough. Likewise we don’t have the black necked crane or muntjac, but use the red capped crane as a substitution can work. Likewise, while it may specifically be Mexican wolves, use of the timber wolf will work perfectly fine.
  6. The barn area has a zebu, but once again the available barn animals can get the vibes across fine as is.
So overall, Franklin Park Zoo is in a decent spot, Stone Zoo suffers a lot. Which had always been an issue with Planet Zoo. Smaller species/ birds got shafted quite a bit.

Sooner or later I might make one for Buttonwood park zoo.
 
Monarto Safari Park is the only one of my local zoos which has the majority of their roster present in PZ (because they're focused on large megafauna, especially African megafauna, which are also the most heavily represented animals in-game), so I decided to place the icons from the online Zoopedia over the zoo's map:

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Doing a recreation of Monarto would be very viable from a species selection perspective, but it's entirely impossible given the safari park is over 15 square kilometres in size, by far the largest zoo in Australia by area - the maximum size of PZ maps is a measly 1 square kilometre.

Someone's already built a recreation of the new visitor centre in PZ though, which is super cool!
Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LX63UU_eDZc

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Here's a better one based (of mine) off @RightWhale's picture
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Off the photo heres what i am missing:
Polk Penguin Conservation Center- Gentoo, Chinstrap, Rockhopper and Macaroni Penguins are missing
Aviary-
National Amphibian Conservation Center- Just have Axolotl, Red Eyed Tree Frog and Golden Poison Frog
Cotton Family Wetlands- Trumpeter Swan(Mute is good enough) and North American River Otter
Asian Forest- Sandhill Crane, Cinerous Vultere, Lappet Faced Vulture and White Lipped Deer
African Forest- Allen's Swamp Monkey, Red Tailed Monkey, Common Eland, Greater Rhea, Sandhill Crane, African Spoonbill and Chilean Flamingo
African Grasslands- Grevy's Zebra, American White Pelican, and Hoffman's Two Toed Sloth
Arctic Ring Of Life- Southern Sea Otter
Outback- None
American Grasslands- Bald Eagle
Holden Reptile Conservation Center- Just have, Dwarf Caiman
Discovery Trails- Possibly Bush Dog, Stingrays, Burrowing owls, domestics and Matchie's Tree Kangaroo.
 
Monarto Safari Park is the only one of my local zoos which has the majority of their roster present in PZ (because they're focused on large megafauna, especially African megafauna, which are also the most heavily represented animals in-game), so I decided to place the icons from the online Zoopedia over the zoo's map:
Felt like doing the same thing for the other two large zoos in my area, Adelaide Zoo (city zoo sister to Monarto Safari park) and Cleland Wildlife Park (largest of the three Australian wildlife parks near me). Both zoos also have a lot of smaller animals (arthropods, reptiles, small native mammals and especially birds) that don't make an appearance on the map:

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Technically The Closest Zoo To Me Is A Public Farm. So Here We Go.

Habitat Animals Not In Game:
  • Kune-kune Pig
  • Vietnamese Potbellied Pig
  • Japanese Sika Deer
  • Domestic Goose
  • Domestic Guineafowl
  • Domestic Guinea Pig
  • Domestic Rabbit
  • Shetland Pony
  • Shire Horse
  • Holstein Friesian Cattle
  • Burmese Rock Python
  • Greater Rhea
  • South American Coati
Habitat Animals In Game:
  • Alpaca
  • Emu
  • Red-necked Wallaby
  • Meerkat
  • Striped Skunk
  • Red Deer
  • Llama
  • Domestic Donkey
  • Domestic Chicken
  • Domestic Sheep
  • Domestic Goat
Exhibit/ Aviary Animals Not In Game:
  • Corn Snake
  • Chinese Water Dragon
  • Central Bearded Dragon
  • Oriental Fire-bellied Toad
  • Common Leopard Gecko
  • European Eagle Owl
Exhibit/ Aviary Animals In Game:
  • None
 
Decided to run this thread back after my post in the DLC speculation, also decided to finally do ButtonWood Park Zoo like I said I would.
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Like everything, it’s of mixed results. A good amount of stand ins are available in game. I’ll break down with what is available in game, to what could be used as a stand in, and finally end with what needs mods or a DLC.
What’s Available
  1. The two retired Asian Elephants are an easy choice, so at the very least we have what is arguably the most famous animals from the zoo.
  2. We have red pandas
  3. We have American bison
  4. We have the beaver
  5. We have the red fox
  6. We have the stripped skunk
  7. We have Cougars/ Pumas/ Mountain Lions
Unfortunately, that’s it. The curse of being a small and local zoo I guess. Now it’s time for what you could potentially use as stand ins.
Stand Ins
  1. For the Sandhill crane you could use the red capped crane. Not great, but better than no crane.
  2. For the North American river otter, might as well used the Asian small clawed otter.
  3. For the harbor seal the gray seal is ok.
  4. For the white tailed deer the fallow deer can work.
  5. For the American black bear you could use the Asian black bear
  6. For the Canadian lynx the Eurasian lynx can be used
  7. For most of the waterfowl, we have the mute swan. Which really only works for the pond in front of the deer.
  8. You can use the Barnyard Pack for the barnyard area. It’s really not a huge loss.
So while not perfect, there are a good handful of stand ins that can be used in game! However it pales in comparison to what we don’t have!
Mods or DLCs needed:
  1. Coyote
  2. Muntjac
  3. Multiple marmoset and tamarin species. Just out of luck for this. What’s new?
  4. Titi monkey and a night monkey
  5. The turkey vultures and bald eagles
  6. Pretty much all the waterfowl at this zoo, which is a list of well over 10 species.
  7. Sun conure and aracari
  8. Fish, this zoo has a cute collection of fish tanks. No stand ins, and fish mods are untapped potential as far as I’m concerned. The same can be said for some of the aquatic invertebrates. Just out of luck.
  9. For the reptiles it isn’t much better, caiman lizards, matamata turtles, it’s just not fair.
So as we can see, nothing new with Planet Zoo! The big broad strokes are covered, and other things flounder. Namely monkeys, birds, and small animals. Nothing new for us unfortunately.
 
Figured I’d take another look at the Beardsley zoo. I will exclude aviary birds.
Red wolves (not there anymore)
White tailed deer
Chacan peccaries
Hellbender salamanders
Scarlet ibis
Golden tamarans
spider monkey
American black bear
Ocelot (not there anymore)
Koi pond
Legless lizard
Ball python
Big brown bat
Red howler monkey
Blue dart frog and many more
Yellow spotted Amazon turtle
Mata mata and many more turtles
Sandhill crane
North American river otter
Greater Rhea
Bobcat
Emerald tree boa
Gray fox
Chinchilla
Domestic rabbit
Pygmy goats
Dexter cows

Some other animals for their petting zoo. Plenty of aviary birds. I do wonder if anyone is attempting a Beardsley zoo build in the community.
 
My local zoo is Chessington Zoo, i have a list of what's missing here:
Asiatic Lion
Blesbok
Bolivian Squirrel Monkey
Colombian Black Spider Monkey
Dark Cusimanse
Grevy's Zebra
Rothschild's Giraffe
Southern Three Banded Armadillo
White Faced Saki
Western Sitatunga
Australian Ibis
Baer's Pochard
Helmeted Guineafowl
Himalayan Monal
Humboldt Penguin
Indian Scops Owl
Military Macaw
Pink Billed Pelican
Speckled Pigeon
Western Black Crowned Crane
Rainbow Lorikeet
Yellow Crowned Amazon
Standing's Day Gecko
Corn Snake
Emerald Skink
False Water Cobra
Fiji Banded Iguana
Hispanolan Rhinoceros Iguana
Solomon Island Skink
Three Toed Box Turtle
West African Mud Turtle
Golden Mantella
Gold Arrow-Poison Frog
Titicaca Water Frog
Blue Tang
Atlantic Wolffish
Banded Pipefish
Banggai Cardinalfish
Blind Cave Tetra
Cardinal Tetra
Cownose Ray
Epaulette Shark
Horn Shark
La Palma Pupfish
Nursehound
Pot Bellied Seahorse
Ram Cichlid
Denison Barb
Red Lionfish
Sea Pony
Small Spotted Catshark
Undulate Ray
Yellow Tang
Anglo-Nubian Goat (Morph for Domestic Goat)
Ankole Cattle
Belgian Hare
Bramha (Morph for Domestic Chicken)
Domestic Reindeer (Morph for Reindeer)
Dwarf Duck
Dwarf Cochin (Morph for Domestic Chicken)
Polish Chicken (Morph for Domestic Chicken)
Indian Runner Duck
Kunekune Pig
Miniature Donkey
Saanen Goat
Southdown (Morph for Domestic Sheep)
Wensleydale Sheep (Morph for Domestic Sheep)
Common Eland
Geoffrey's Marmoset
Black and gold Tamarin
Pygmy Marmoset
Serval
Mandarin Duck
Marbled Teal
Southern Ground Hornbill
Bearded Dragon
Leopard Gecko
Green Tree Monitor
Red Footed Tortoise
Mountain Chicken
Bonnethead Shark
Domestic Ferret
Domestic Guinea pig
African Pygmy Goat
 
How I feel about recreating areas of the Smithsonian Zoo:

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  • We have the animal(s) or great subs: elephant outpost, giant panda, Przewalski's horse, great ape house, gibbon ridge, lemur island, prairie dogs, great cats, Andean bears, and Kid's farm.
  • A little would go a long way, but I'm mostly fine with:
    • Asia Trail: I miss the fishing cat a bit. They also keep deer sometimes in the other facility? An Asian deer would be nice.
    • Africa Trail: We have every species or a close equivalent for everything but the hornbill. It is cool, and its absence is noted.
    • American Trail: We are missing the bald eagle, screech owl, raven, and brown pelican. They also have a 'Smokey the bear' walkway. Even though this zoo only keeps exotic bears, I still need my black bear for many other projects and would probably put them in this section.
    • Claws and Paws: It's a pretty small section. We already have the Pallas's cat, a (not quite a bobcat) lynx, and a binturong, but we're missing the North American porcupine.
    • Reptile Discovery Center: With the larger habitat reqs for our in-game reptiles, I can sort of ignore the missing monitors, Chinese alligator, false gharial, cuban croc, and mid-sized tortoises. I still miss my big aquatic turtles. The absence of some popular and obvious exhibit species like cobras, chameleons, green anaconda, and colorful snakes is also felt.
  • I am missing most of it, and it makes me sad:
    • Small Mammal House:
      • South American monkeys: They rotate with ~7 different species of tamarins/marmosets. I think I saw 5 different ones when I was last there. This house also has saki monkeys and possibly had/has black howler and titi monkeys? The absence of new world monkeys, especially tamarins, is upsetting.
      • Other South American mammals: Tamanduas, Brazilian porcupines, agoutis, coatis, chinchillas, rock cavies, and maras are also all found here. They are some of the largest, best candidates for PZ from this section, and most popular. South America needs more stuff.
      • Other relevant picks: Black-footed ferrets and Virginia opossums are some oft-mentioned local species. For others, there are hyraxes, mongooses, large rats, squirrels, a bettong, and some others.
    • Think tank: It doesn't need nearly as much as the small mammal house, but I think they keep their old world monkey(s) here? Schmidt's red-tailed and Allen's swamp monkeys are listed on the website, so I'm assuming they rotate between those two. Something basic like a guereza and/or guenon would go a long way for many of my projects.
    • Koi pond near the Kid's farm: Some koi and pond turtles would be amazing.
  • I can't even start:
    • Amazonia: Considering that most of this section is flying birds and fish, I'm not surprised I can't do anything with it. I would like to at least have a large turtle, maybe an agouti, and some larger wetlands birds like the spoonbill, ibis, and WFWD to make my own version
    • Bird House: Aside from the obvious and maybe impossible flying birds, I really need more cranes, waterfowl, a turkey, at least one ibis, and maybe an American flamingo. I haven't seen it since the renovations with the local species. I hope to go back at some point.
To summarize, it's nothing new. I need more birds, monkeys, and South American animals.
 
There were some Zoo Negara and Singapore Zoo animals that weren't in Planet Zoo yet.
  • False gharial
  • Flying birds like parrots and hornbills
  • Fish, last of all five types/kinds of vertebrates to be in that game
 
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It's a little hard to break down the sections of this map, so I'll just describe what is present and most missing.

When you first walk in, there is a flamingo enclosure and a walk-in aviary off to the right. I think the flamingos were Chilean, but I'd happily sub an American flamingo. The greater flamingo is better than nothing. The aviary contains a mix of species, some of which could work as habitat animals, including ducks, pheasants, and roseate spoonbills.

The lar gibbons and siamangs are up next. Continuing right and right again, there are some more Asian animals and raccoons. We have binturongs, snow leopards, Asiatic black bears, Bengal tigers, orangutans, and the distantly visible chimps in the game.

Giraffes, bongos, kudu, birds, and wander around the pond with colorful fish (probably koi) to the left. The birds include several species of African cranes and a mix of waterfowl. There is also a Galapagos giant tortoise. To the right, there are some enclosures for larger African animals, including lions, rhinos, cheetahs, zebras, addaxes, and impala. I know I'm a bit spoiled for choice for African ungulates, but there are so many later in the tour, that the missing ones seem more important.

Keeping to the outside, there is a domestic section. Both species of camels and an assortment of farm animals can be found here. There is also a small budgie aviary for kids to feed the birds.

There are some North American animals along the next loop, including an alligator, bison, grey wolf, wapiti, and white-tailed deer. They also kept bighorn sheep until recently. There is also an aviary for an eagle and an owl. This was the first time I saw mouflon. I might use the Dall sheep, ibex, or hopefully someday bighorn sheep instead here. There are some fallow deer.

Veering to the left takes you to a section with their male ostrich and three lemurs found in-game. On the right, there are blackbucks and tahr, but I could probably substitute a markhor for the latter. There are also tapirs, Sarus cranes, and additional old world monkeys before reaching the Safari train station.

As much as I want other groups to catch up more, I'd actually need more African ungulates to do this section justice. We have the nyala, gazelle, gemsbok, and oryx, but we're still missing the eland, waterbuck, and greater kudu. The greater kudu really seems like a missing star. I could probably sub in a wildebeest and sable for one or two of those, but I wouldn't mind paying for them eventually.

The inner loop is hurting the most. We've got the African penguins, meerkats, an otter sub, fennec foxes, prairie dogs, and enough exhibit critters to mostly do that small building justice even if they aren't the right ones (emerald tree boa, local snakes, and pancake tortoise, where are you?). The rest is a bit jumbled, but there are mostly South American animals down one side. They have a strong primate collection, including capuchins, black howler monkeys, spider monkeys, tamarins, marmosets, squirrel monkeys, and titis. The spider monkeys are the main missing star here. Maras, capybaras, llamas, anteaters, rheas, lowland tapirs, giant anteaters, two-toed sloths, agoutis, American white pelicans, macaws, toucans, condors, and kookaburra can be found here. For old-world stuff, there are also white storks, hyraxes, crested porcupines, caracals, duikers, a klipspringer (could be subbed with a dik-dik), peafowl, a bat-eared fox, and more cranes. My beloved serval is on one end, near an enclosure with a cheetah whose best friend is a lab. There is also an assortment of African monkeys, including red-tailed monkeys, guerezas, De Brazza's guenons, mangabeys, swamp monkeys, and Diana monkeys.

Finally, there is a small Australian enclosure close to the exit with red kangaroos, wallaroos (can use wallaby), and emus.

To summarize, I again need a bunch of new world monkeys, cranes, waterfowl, several old word monkeys, flying birds, other habitat birds, and koi. At least one American deer and serval would also be useful, and I actually need more African ungulates, of all things, for a somewhat faithful recreation.
 
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A tale as old as time, and for some reason frontier won’t fix
I think i can be a devil's advocate here. Birds and monkeys would be extremely time and effort consuming to program/animate/design, ESPECIALLY if they look and act completely differently to those already found in game, same applies to most South American animals too
 
I think i can be a devil's advocate here. Birds and monkeys would be extremely time and effort consuming to program/animate/design, ESPECIALLY if they look and act completely differently to those already found in game, same applies to most South American animals too
The argument that something looks and acts to differently to be make a pack just flew out the window when frontier chose the sifaka.

And compared to what a sifaka needed (or still needs) in terms of unique animations most of SAs animals, monkeys and birds included, strike me as a similar or less amount work. Spider monkey being the only exception really
 
The argument that something looks and acts to differently to be make a pack just flew out the window when frontier chose the sifaka.

And compared to what a sifaka needed (or still needs) in terms of unique animations most of SAs animals, monkeys and birds included, strike me as a similar or less amount work. Spider monkey being the only exception really
Secretary Bird?
 
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