A lot of animals do, almost none have got them. They haven't made new enrichment items for a long time.
What species are missing for you to complete your local zoo?
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I dont think the secretary is anything crazy either.
Considering how convincing the modded on based on the crane works id say that one is also one of the pretty doable ones.
Now, should a official one have a new rubber snake and some sort of perch enrichment?
Yes.
Will we get that?
Highly doubt it.
Considering how convincing the modded on based on the crane works id say that one is also one of the pretty doable ones.
Now, should a official one have a new rubber snake and some sort of perch enrichment?
Yes.
Will we get that?
Highly doubt it.
I have a concept called the Savannah animal pack, which i believe I've shared on the forum before. It contains the secretary bird as well as 2 Enrichment items, the Perch Log (self explanatory) and the Snake Dummy (a false snake with food inside it), and with what I want from the sec, it would be a miracle for frontier's lacking staff to pull off in a regular timeframe
We havent gotten a "new" enrichment in 2 years most we have gotten is retextured food enrichments with the jelly for the anniversary the time before that was a new ball in twilight. Last time we got an actually unquie enrichment item was the scratching posts and scarecrow in conservation 2 years ago.
Plenty of animals have needed new enrichment none have gotten it no reason to suspect the secretary bird would be different.
Then it wouldn't have any food enrichment
This is a bad argument because what is stopping them from using any of the existing food enrichment like the feeder balls, forage box, slow feeder, pinata or some others im forgetting sure it wont be super realistic but nothing in this game is.
The secretary bird is one of the most particular animals in the world, it pretty much only eats snakes and they do this by stalking them and rapidly stomping on their head, even if you did use the Skittle Feeder (the only one i can think of that could work here) you'd still need a from scratch animation for one animal for one interaction on one item
But that’s just one extreme example there are plenty of easier birds than the Secretary. So using its complexity isn’t really good enough to justify why we don’t get more.
Understand that Frontier is quite low on staff, and they have other active projects than Planet zoo, including a brand new sister game sequel that they have poured countless resources into
Frontier attempted to make a Sifaka so they clearly have enough resources to try and make some higher effort animals. Birds such as the Rhea or American Flamingo would be much simpler to make than the Sifaka. So frontier absolutely has enough resources to create birds if they have attempted other higher effort animals.
What is also to consider is a sequel, people would want an incentive to purchase the next instalment, why not animals that they felt were missing
However frontier has plenty of other unique features available which would likely have greater market pull when creating a sequel such as aviaries, aquariums, an exhibit overhaul and existing improvements present in planet coaster 2 such as an improved pathing system and the light physics allowing for nocturnal houses. I doubt people would buy the sequel over the presence of a handful of monkeys and birds not present in the original, when there are a large host of other attractive features likely to pull in customers.
I suppose, i merely play Devils advocate, i agree that certain animals should be in the game (such as the Coati, it is literally a Raccoon Lemur)
The funny thing is that planet coaster 2 included all these new water rides like birds we keep asking for but then people wanted more traditional rides which would be like us complaining we needed more ungulates because frontier prioritised small birds than staple zoo animals. Leaving a sequel for highly desired animals is a double edged sword.
About enrichment though, there's a fantastic secretary bird mod that uses the red crowned crane as a base. It receives only the forage pool for food enrichment, when thinking of an actual zoo exhibit, this is really the extent of it no matter how unique one bird is in the wild.
About enrichment though, there's a fantastic secretary bird mod that uses the red crowned crane as a base. It receives only the forage pool for food enrichment, when thinking of an actual zoo exhibit, this is really the extent of it no matter how unique one bird is in the wild.
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Correct me if im wrong, but im pretty certain they are pretty generalist feeders.
Edit: San diego list their diet as "Just about anything found on the ground - Grasshoppers, lizards, rats, squirrels, shrews, small rodents and birds, birds’ eggs, chameleons, snakes, and small tortoises"
May have gotten me there, but i mainly mean method, the only things really are the skittle and slow feeders
I mean the skittle feeder would work pretty well for that, they could add an animation where they jump on it or kick it and peck at whatever drops out afterwards
While we're in this topic, I'm not the only one that thinks the melon feeder is underwhelming, am i?
Man, I really hoped for a long term we could get perches as enrichment items. It’s the easiest way to get any form of “flying birds” without anything absolutely crazy.
But not getting any new enrichment items in awhile doesn’t help.
Though now that I think about it, say Frontier makes enrichment items for some birds only. Chances are they wouldn’t have to update a bunch of other animals, only the new ones. I can get not getting new enrichment items, adding one item may mean 50+ animals need new animations.
But if we get new birds? It’s not like there are a ton of birds that need updating, in fact only two birds in game could use a perch. That being the peafowl and the chicken.
Here is what is missing from my local zoos. I didn't duplicate missing animals if they shared the same ones that were missing, so if the animal was listed in the top list I didn't included it in the bottom list.
BIRDS
- African Crowned Crane
- Black Swan
- Mandarin Duck
- Red Legged Seriema
- Chilean Flamingo
- Lesser Flamingo
- Lady Ross' Turaco
- Laughing Kookaburra
- Lady Amherst's Pheasant
- Hyacinth Macaw
- Green Winged Macaw
- Great Green Macaw
- Blue and Gold Macaw
- Cockatiel
- Parakeet
- Western Crowned Pigeon
- Wild Turkey
- Eurasian Eagle Owl
- Black Crested Mangabey
- Wolf’s Guenon
- Patas Monkey
- Common Marmoset
- Grivet Monkey
- Cotton Top Tamarin
- De Brazza's Monkey
- Black Capped Capuchin
- Reeve’s Muntjac
- Sika Deer
- Watusi Cattle
- Yak
- Vietnamese Pot Bellied Pig
- Jacob Sheep
- Aoudad
- American Elk (Wapiti)
- Madagascar Giant Day Gecko
- Red Footed Tortoise
- Cane Toad
- Frilled Lizard
- Kaiser's Spotted Newt
- Corn Snake
- Bearded Dragon
- Leopard Gecko
- Crested Gecko
- Snake Neck Turtle
- Sinaloan Milk Snake
- European Glass Lizard
- Red-Eared Slider
- Japanese Pond Turtle
- Eastern Box Turtle
- South American Coatimundi
- Patagonian Mara
- Serval
- Guinea Pig
BIRDS
- Bald Eagle
- Barn Owl
- Black Vulture
- Eastern Rosella
- Golden Eagle
- Keel-Billed Toucan
- King Vulture
- Common Raven
- Rothschild’s Bali Mynah
- Scarlet Ibis
- Wrinkled Hornbill
- Yellow-Rumped Cacique
- Bolivian Gray Titi Monkey
- Golden Lion Tamarin
- White-Faced Saki
- Southern Black Howler Monkey
- Masai Giraffe
- Bat-Eared Fox
- Red Wolf
- Matschie’s Tree Kangaroo
- Southern Tamandua
- Flemish Giant Rabbit