What's meant though if I understand it correctly is that if the Sloths are permanently "running" across the Floor and you want them more realistic you could put them into a Enclosure to have them behave more naturally even though you would lose some Possibilities then
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So there are Zoos in Real Life that keep those two together? Nice I'll see if I can find some Pictures or Videos of such Enclosures
I can't find pictures, but in my local zoo the Ramat Gan Safari Zoo they are together.
Wow, they are successfully kept with so many Species. Even Alligators. Now I want Green Iguanas even more to be Habitat Animals
That's...not what I mean at all.
A lot of people have raised two very good points;
- Sloths in an exhibit setting will behave more naturally, but it will be on a loop and the system lacks some creative options (less so than the normal exhibit but still).
- Sloths in a habitat setting will likely behave unnaturally, by spending a lot of time on the ground, for instance, but the habitat has more creative flexibility.
But if such an inactive animal with such specific needs ends up as a habitat species, wouldn't those habitats end up looking like exhibits would already do?
I even think difference between open air and terrarium iguana enclosures is more noticeable and reasonable.
I think the exhibit system would just limit sloth to its realistic behavior while not taking away much habitat wise.
I even think difference between open air and terrarium iguana enclosures is more noticeable and reasonable.
I think the exhibit system would just limit sloth to its realistic behavior while not taking away much habitat wise.
Yes, but without the hassle of having to build a complex habitat for an inactive animal. I also advocate for the koala getting a hybrid market model for the same reason, and the green iguana even though I know it's fine in the 16m3 exhibit.
I'm all for more creativity but I also like that sometimes we don't have to be super creative.
I feel like if koala's, who spend almost equal amounts of time in trees, were deemed habitat animals a sloth would probably be the same thing. Because from a game standpoint, there really isn't much of a difference between these two animals really. Games are and have always been a compromise of what is found in reality, so a sloth not completely behaving like a sloth would in real life is in the end just what's going to happen anyway, exhibit or habitat. With how koalas spend much more time on climbing structures already now, I can perfectly see a sloth build further on that.
Going back to the DLC speculation, I've actually recently wondered something about the sudden switch back to a scenery pack. Like, I think we all kind of assumed it was going to be an animal pack, because that seemed to have been the pattern and from the limited statistics we have at hand animal packs don't really underperform so it doesn't really feel logical to assume that animal packs as a whole would have been cancelled.
So that makes me think, let's for a minute assume that the next pack is an animal pack and that they have indeed switched the two packs around this time. I wonder if that's because they already had two scenery packs with winter/holiday themed scenery in them and didn't want to go for another round of those? Switching the two would allow them to go for another more winter themed pack in December (which for a mostly Western based company isn't abnormal) without having to make another set of scenery that matches that season? Because in all fairness, I think we've already kind of reached the limit of what the game reasonable could have in terms of winter themed scenery.
Going back to the DLC speculation, I've actually recently wondered something about the sudden switch back to a scenery pack. Like, I think we all kind of assumed it was going to be an animal pack, because that seemed to have been the pattern and from the limited statistics we have at hand animal packs don't really underperform so it doesn't really feel logical to assume that animal packs as a whole would have been cancelled.
So that makes me think, let's for a minute assume that the next pack is an animal pack and that they have indeed switched the two packs around this time. I wonder if that's because they already had two scenery packs with winter/holiday themed scenery in them and didn't want to go for another round of those? Switching the two would allow them to go for another more winter themed pack in December (which for a mostly Western based company isn't abnormal) without having to make another set of scenery that matches that season? Because in all fairness, I think we've already kind of reached the limit of what the game reasonable could have in terms of winter themed scenery.
Sloths would definitely be walkthrough animals, as they cannot work properly as habitat animals, they would be extremely uncanny (sped up animations, constantly being on the ground for interactions, mating, fighting, etc.) it just doesn't make sense. And no, they are not like koalas, not by a mile. Koalas move at a normal speed and are able to run, sloths just slowly crawl on the ground. Walkthrough exhibits are the perfect way to implement them into the game as the null option offers a lot of creativity to build their habitats 
I think sloths will be in the game because is a highly demanded animal by the community and it's an animal featured in a game poster.
Having said that, I believe that the sloth can and should be an exhibit animal with a predetermined number of animations, given their slowness and peculiarity, it would work much better than as a habitat animal. In fact I will say more, I would also convert the koala into an exhibit animal, removing or limiting the animations on the ground and placing mainly those on the trees, even if I suppose that this is pure utopia and Frontier will hardly change it.
Having said that, I believe that the sloth can and should be an exhibit animal with a predetermined number of animations, given their slowness and peculiarity, it would work much better than as a habitat animal. In fact I will say more, I would also convert the koala into an exhibit animal, removing or limiting the animations on the ground and placing mainly those on the trees, even if I suppose that this is pure utopia and Frontier will hardly change it.
My main mountain pack wants would be Pallas cat, any pheasant (and the monal is a pleasant pheasant), takin, and rock hyrax. I think that Hyrax would be a fun odd-ball choice with their little tusks and climbing habit. They look like a small rodent, but they're related to elephants and behave like ibex.I've also wrote a Concept for a Mountain Pack once:
- Gelada (this one would definitely be my Favorite)
- Alpine Marmot
- Rock Hyrax
- the Himalayan Monal seems to be popular among other Players and more Birds are always nice
- a second Species of Goat or Sheep (Barbary Sheep, Bighorn Sheep, Cretan Goat, Bezoar Ibex)
- Yellow footed Rock Wallaby
- Yak (either wild or domesticated but I'd prefer the domesticated one)
- maybe the Lord Howe Island Stick Insect could be used in this Pack (just take a Look at Ball's Pyramid, the Island where the Species was rediscovered
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If anything, I hope biome packs in terms of scenery would lead to zoo specific things. As @SalamAnders mentioned, a great set of objects that would for instance fit a rainforest pack is a bunch of roofs that make it easier to make glass domes etc. All in all, I'm with @NZFanatic, I think they...forums.frontier.co.uk
kind of wonder whether part of the reason for the switch up in animal / scenery packs is that they believe spring is the ideal time to bring in a new major update regarding animal behaviors and because spring is about new life and has easter. easter eggs. eggs? If frontier want to be as realistic as possible maybe some species need to make the switch from live births to nesting and roosting behaviors which is the most common behavior in birds.
So, if the update has those new behaviors applied to existing birds, then the pack alongside it could be a Farm style Pack
So, if the update has those new behaviors applied to existing birds, then the pack alongside it could be a Farm style Pack
- Emu
- Patagonian Mara (bit of a stretch) / rabbit (because easter) / fat little goats
- Helmeted Guineafowl
- Walkthrough bird preferably waterfowl / tortoise
- Donkey
Those would be great. Especially because of the Donkey and the Emu but the other ones are also absolutely great. But why should a additional Tortoise or some Species of Waterfowl be in a Walkthrough Exhibit?
I think it's a strong possibility the Sloth will be in, just because it's one of the few remaining "generally well known" animals (general public/casual gamers, not hardcore animal fans).
You put a Sloth and an Emu in front of an average person, chances are much greater that the sloth will be identified. And I say this knowing that we here are not "average" when it comes to knowledge and love of animals. But I think we could be overselling our representation in the the game's player demographic - and not just a little, but by a lot.
For the casual person being able to identify a sloth, they'll probably be a bigger draw than a "weird looking fox" and a "mean looking giant rat" as I've heard Maned Wolfs and Tasmanian Devils described. Of course, said person could easily just think a sloth is an upside down monkey so who knows lol
I completely agree. I think the sloth has one of the highest possibilities to be included in the game simply because of its sheer popularity amongst EVERYONE. Who doesn’t love a little lazy sloth? For me, it is probably the only animal now (besides flying birds) that I REALLY need to be able to make a dream zoo. Without it, my tropical houses feel like they are lacking something. I am REALLY hoping to see it in the next DLC or, if not, in Spring. I really hope I don’t have to wait long!!!
we are probably thinking of different waterfowl. I was thinking along the lines of the rare Madagascar teal, which can be found in mixed bird walkthroughs. They are about half the size of a mallard. They are not allowed in open outdoor spaces because they would be predated on by local wildlife like rats and to keep them from being exposed to diseases like bird flu. After seeing the damage a single free roaming mallard with fast spreading bird flu can do to a flock of rare geese, cranes and flamingos and then not effecting the birds of the various walkthroughs aviaries. Some ducks just need to be closed off from the outside world for their own safety especially if part of a breeding program. Same with some smaller tortoise / turtles species.
Ok, thought at first ,,what's the Problem? It's just a Duck" but your Explanation definitely makes Sense
A Shame though that we couldn't have them properly in a Pond in something like a Madagascar House then
Well there is the semi open option where ducks are outside but it is an enclosed mesh aviary. This is a common option when zoos can't afford to have an indoor building for waterfowl. A good example of this would be San Diego zoo which keeps a vast collection of birds with a huge portion of these under some kind of aviary mesh roof
So people i know you guys are arguing about rabbits, hares and sloths, but may i present another enticing option?
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