Only use I have for it right now is assassinations or purposeful wake data gathering and since chasing assassination targets is pointless (they are no longer mission targets on system change), I have purposeful wake data gathering left. Heck, it wasn't even till I recently decided to hop back on some smaller ships that any target even had a chance to jump away from me in the first place.
New upgrade System - "Your time is valueable"- is a pure grind and waste of everyones time
Only use I have for it right now is assassinations or purposeful wake data gathering and since chasing assassination targets is pointless (they are no longer mission targets on system change), I have purposeful wake data gathering left. Heck, it wasn't even till I recently decided to hop back on some smaller ships that any target even had a chance to jump away from me in the first place.
At least this general update is better than the one in October, that one was so crap that I stopped playing (& Iv got 47 weeks + on my game clock).
The updates that Iv seen have got me interested in trying it out again!
Elite the clicking game. Engineer your mouse button before it gives up while upgrading all der modules.
If you have even rudimentary experience with the Engineering process then you SHOULD KNOW what materials are valuable and where to get them.
Think about what 100 unit capacity for every single material and data in the game is going to bring to your inventory without even trying. I know what stuff is needed for every major upgrade you can do to a ship. They ALL come around while simply playing the game.
But now, you will be able to keep 100 of every single one, and no longer be forced to make choices as to what to keep and what to dump.
Sorry you are not able to grasp the significance of all this yourself, and how it will have a HUGE impact on the total perceived time a player invests in the engineering process.
Buttonmashcrafting!
I think alot of folk are way, way overreacting too much to the changes. When you want the best you possible can get out of your ship; you can easily spend days and days getting the materials to do 300 rolls on ONE module just on the off chance of getting that maxed out secondary.
These changes will allow you top it out much, much sooner so having to roll every module seems a decent trade off.
It's all about that bigger picture.
These changes will allow you top it out much, much sooner so having to roll every module seems a decent trade off.
It's all about that bigger picture.
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FD bought clickerheroes?
No, I get G1 and enjoy benefits it gives to me. Then I get to G2 and play some more game before decide do I need more upgrades.
Majority of people calling for G5 shop want to min max their ships. It is fine idea but that's not what Engineers are about. And they shouldn't have been about in first place, because min max is sort of banter at party - you might enjoy it, but rest of the people find it borderline annoying because they have no really interest in it.
Yes, if you did that, you will save time. If you didn't do that, the amount of time you save could be negative. Testing and appropriate variables are needed.
You're missing the point. The people who are unhappy don't do that.
FD have levelled out the grind for everyone.
At least before you could choose how much time you wanted to put into your material gathering based on how badly you want that god roll.
For min/maxers it's great.
For everyone else it sucks.
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The idea of engineering is to get the best out of your ship; that's the whole point of min-maxing; you want the best possible edge in whatever you're doing.
Yet I would be willing to bet you have mostly A-Rated modules on your ships...
And you got it all wrong, the minmaxers are the only ones who benefit from this change.
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Unless you play in Open .... and suddenly you need a G5 protected FSD against the G5 uber-engineered weapon that has just taken out your FSD
The reason to engineer is to improve your ship to a level that is acceptable to the desire of the player. Not everyone min-maxes their ships....for some a decent roll is good enough.
The bigger picture? In 6 months everybody has the same maxed out ships.
Unless you play in Open .... and suddenly you need a G5 protected FSD against the G5 uber-engineered weapon that has just taken out your FSD
That's something we will have to live with and figure out how to deal with. Doesn't mean it should hold having good progression instead of min max shop in hostage.
Having better Engineers system is about it serving actual game, not min max PvP measurement contests.
Why settle for just decent though? Whenever you're doing something, you wouldn't stop half way through without giving it your best.
Level playing field again
Unfortunately, this appears to be the inevitable outcome.
Is that not a good thing?