Judging by how rapidly the ED community solves problems/puzzles in game and we're now on 588 pages of interesting theories, ideas, conclusions and general all round tin foil hat-ery and we're still no closer to finding raxxla I'm becoming more convinced it's not in the game(yet) and the codex entry is nothing but a lie to keep us looking because as long as we're looking we're in game which is all FDev want. I do hope tho that the next post in this thread is some one saying I've found it
The Quest To Find Raxxla
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So I'm currently working on the "Toast as directions" theory, but I have a slightly different approach that I want to investigate. I think that since Humanity spread through the bubble from Earth, everything that we took into space with us is still going to be earth-based- including astronomy, astrology, religion etc.
I think it's a reasonable correlation, that just like we might look to the night sky on Earth and point out constellations, that humans on another planet might still point to the night sky and those same constellations.
"See that group of stars? Back home we called those (x)"
I imagine a group of explorers on the surface of Raxxla, looking up to the night sky at our "Earth" constellations- (especially if it's close enough to Earth that they still hold shape) - and just as you might toast a round of guests at your table, toasting 3-6 constellations in the night sky of Raxxla. That being said;
- I'm convinced that the first toast is Zeta Cassiopeia, after a lot of my own research coincides with other user's conclusions.
- I'm hung up on The Whisperer/Siren however. Some research led me towards Achenar and Demeter, but I think I got off track somewhere.
- I suspect Lovers may be a reference to Algol
- I suspect Parents may be Kitalpha
- I've got nothing for Vagabond/Heart outside of the Heart Nebula.
Ultimately I beleive that plotting these points on a "horizontal"-ish plane and calculating which systems could see all of them in a circle from a somewhat central point might be the answer.
I think it's a reasonable correlation, that just like we might look to the night sky on Earth and point out constellations, that humans on another planet might still point to the night sky and those same constellations.
"See that group of stars? Back home we called those (x)"
I imagine a group of explorers on the surface of Raxxla, looking up to the night sky at our "Earth" constellations- (especially if it's close enough to Earth that they still hold shape) - and just as you might toast a round of guests at your table, toasting 3-6 constellations in the night sky of Raxxla. That being said;
- I'm convinced that the first toast is Zeta Cassiopeia, after a lot of my own research coincides with other user's conclusions.
- I'm hung up on The Whisperer/Siren however. Some research led me towards Achenar and Demeter, but I think I got off track somewhere.
- I suspect Lovers may be a reference to Algol
- I suspect Parents may be Kitalpha
- I've got nothing for Vagabond/Heart outside of the Heart Nebula.
Ultimately I beleive that plotting these points on a "horizontal"-ish plane and calculating which systems could see all of them in a circle from a somewhat central point might be the answer.
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That's why there aren't any clues.
They could just give us the answer as a simple transposition cipher. It would take years to figure it out.
They could just give us the answer as a simple transposition cipher. It would take years to figure it out.
I don't think you're being Totally Sirius about that.
Alternatively:
Mother of Galaxies - President Halsey
Parent's Grief - Gan Romero's mom
Lover's Woe - That Imperial chick who was going to marry a Fed but didn't
Whisperer in Witchspace - The Formidine Rift Exodus logs
Siren - The Alliance Festival of Culture
Vagabonds - Those refugees that got stuck someplace
See, it's all right there in Galnet - this stuff about it being fluff is all LIES, to keep us off the trail of Raxxla!
Heatsinks - check
AFMU - check
Extra brown Rimmer safety pants - check
Last will & testament sent to Sue, Cripple & Sneer - check
Bat Out of Hell playing at volume 11 - check
I'll see you on Raxxla!
or in the Starport where I respawn or after my next jump, in the likely event that nothing unusual happensBy that logic, maybe Fdev sent Dorian to keep you off the track. That must mean you're close!
Experiment results....
I charged on the 4th Neutron
Then I charged on Neutrons 2 & 3 AT THE SAME TIME!
Then I charged on Neutron 1, as shown in previous post. This one orbits the BH.
The I flew directly into this...
Nothing. So I tried flying through the diamond...
Again nothing, BUT...
...If it turns out that Raxxla is "the journey", then THIS will be my own, personal Raxxla...
I charged on the 4th Neutron
Then I charged on Neutrons 2 & 3 AT THE SAME TIME!
Then I charged on Neutron 1, as shown in previous post. This one orbits the BH.
The I flew directly into this...
Nothing. So I tried flying through the diamond...
Again nothing, BUT...
...If it turns out that Raxxla is "the journey", then THIS will be my own, personal Raxxla...
2 hours later and no more word from PeteACarter...he must have made it
Lie is a strong word and will affect how you feel if/when Raxxla isnt in the game...it likely isn't again. Its better to think of it as a Treasure Hunt for a mythical place, which it is really, and therefore may not even exist at all, a lot of the fun is in the seeking and the mystery.
It would help if DB didn't say 'What a silly question, of course it exists' in the same way I'd say to a 5 year old 'What a silly question, of course Santa Clause exists'.
I'm heading down the track of ignoring the toast as a red herring for the moment, or at least nothing that will give me insight until I have further information, so am looking at everything else in the Codex as maybe a hint rather than a clue. Enough people are on the toast, ill look at something else.
I'm back on the trail of maybe believing it will have something to do with Lave and the old worlds. At least a connection. Buoyed up by finding this week an undiscovered system 159 LY from Sol. So this theory that everywhere has been 'explored' within 1000 LY of Sol let alone actually explored meaning mapping is nonsense. Most of it was scan n jump to get the name tagged.
Lets assume 'we know why people haven't been able to find it' is accurate, that could simply mean the same as DW answer to the question 'Can anybody find it (the FR mystery)?' DW replied 'Depends who goes looking'. Implication you need special equipment or something, reality just means, depends if the person looks in the right place or how well they search. If they scan and jump, probably not.
So DB statement could simply mean the same, 'People haven't scanned the system or explored it / mapped the planet / been near it in system yet', all equal, we know why people haven't been able to find it, without any mystery. Mind you so does, 'its not there'.
Lie is a strong word and will affect how you feel if/when Raxxla isnt in the game...it likely isn't again. Its better to think of it as a Treasure Hunt for a mythical place, which it is really, and therefore may not even exist at all, a lot of the fun is in the seeking and the mystery.
It would help if DB didn't say 'What a silly question, of course it exists' in the same way I'd say to a 5 year old 'What a silly question, of course Santa Clause exists'.
I'm heading down the track of ignoring the toast as a red herring for the moment, or at least nothing that will give me insight until I have further information, so am looking at everything else in the Codex as maybe a hint rather than a clue. Enough people are on the toast, ill look at something else.
I'm back on the trail of maybe believing it will have something to do with Lave and the old worlds. At least a connection. Buoyed up by finding this week an undiscovered system 159 LY from Sol. So this theory that everywhere has been 'explored' within 1000 LY of Sol let alone actually explored meaning mapping is nonsense. Most of it was scan n jump to get the name tagged.
Lets assume 'we know why people haven't been able to find it' is accurate, that could simply mean the same as DW answer to the question 'Can anybody find it (the FR mystery)?' DW replied 'Depends who goes looking'. Implication you need special equipment or something, reality just means, depends if the person looks in the right place or how well they search. If they scan and jump, probably not.
So DB statement could simply mean the same, 'People haven't scanned the system or explored it / mapped the planet / been near it in system yet', all equal, we know why people haven't been able to find it, without any mystery. Mind you so does, 'its not there'.
I'm in the same boat as you actually. I've noticed that all of my markers line up with systems above Lave (if viewed from the "southern" hemisphere of Raxxla, hypothetically) So Im exploring that 90ly "Galaxy 1" range, starting with the rarest stars and working down. Even if the toast is a red herring, maybe I'll luck out with the other!
The Winking Cat is back, this time actually returning something:
https://www.elitedangerous.com/news/galnet/article/winking-cats-return/
I feel that this is another clue for us to follow, not just fluff. The clue here is not the name of the returned painting, as that's consolidating what has already been suggested, to me. It is the name of the painter, in particular their initials. M.M. There was a painting previously stolen by WC that was called (at least a part of the title) Two Circles and I wondered before if those might be referring to the primary stars of a system. If that hunch was right, then this might be narrowing it down to two M stars. That means I'm looking for an Earth-like World orbiting a pair of M stars. Fairly close to the Bubble, though otherwise I'm not sure what heading I'd have to take, given that the Milky Way could have a million worlds like that.
I don't think the Winking Cat is guiding people to Raxxla but I mention it here because I do think there's a chance that it might be a way of extending an invitation to candidate members of The Dark Wheel. If that is the case, then it is a lead worth following up.
https://www.elitedangerous.com/news/galnet/article/winking-cats-return/
I feel that this is another clue for us to follow, not just fluff. The clue here is not the name of the returned painting, as that's consolidating what has already been suggested, to me. It is the name of the painter, in particular their initials. M.M. There was a painting previously stolen by WC that was called (at least a part of the title) Two Circles and I wondered before if those might be referring to the primary stars of a system. If that hunch was right, then this might be narrowing it down to two M stars. That means I'm looking for an Earth-like World orbiting a pair of M stars. Fairly close to the Bubble, though otherwise I'm not sure what heading I'd have to take, given that the Milky Way could have a million worlds like that.
I don't think the Winking Cat is guiding people to Raxxla but I mention it here because I do think there's a chance that it might be a way of extending an invitation to candidate members of The Dark Wheel. If that is the case, then it is a lead worth following up.
I was thinking over breakfast today that since the Winking Cat is in galnet, and fluff has been removed from galnet, that it must be meaningful. But what makes you think it’s TDW?
Certainly sounds like a double M-type system, but why ELW orbiting both?
Could be worth pulling up the old galnet posts on Winking Cat activities!
There were other similar heist, back in the 3250s:
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IMAGINAL NETWORK HEIST
M.C.S
The recent theft has been reported of two priceless works of art. The 'Imaginal Network' by [OoL1([FmL2,[FfL2), a multi-dimensional image made in the 'new conceptual' school of thought was removed from the Gallery of the Locational Arts Trust at [SyL3(A) while, in a second raid on the same night, the K'tion's 'Contemporate Method' was stolen from the Institute of Critical Art at Wicca's World.
Both raids carry the hallmark of a well-organised group and both undoubtedly had inside information - in the [SyL3(A) theft, the multi-layered alarm system had been deactivated while on Wicca's World, a simultaneous raid by supposed eco-terrorists caused every alarm in the Station to activate so the one at the Gallery was ignored until long after the thieves had departed.
Spokes beings for both sides have commented on the value of the pieces and their remarkable similarity in conceptual terms, supporting the theory that the theft of both was commissioned for a private collection.»
I'm sorry guys, but I feel sure this is fluff. When ED said no more fluff, they also said....but we will be publishing the rest of the Alliance Festival articles.
I just assumed they chose to finish off the fluff stories they'd already started.
The ELW is because the painting Terra Absentia was stolen. Again that's just a hunch. I'm out at the Cat's Paw nebula now so I'll have a look around but so far even the M dwarf systems have all been tagged.
As to why it might be TDW involved: it's not that I think they have to be (the m.o. fits a Rogue AI better), it's that it solves TDW's problem as to how to issue an invite to explorers who might be of a mind to join the search for Raxxla. Explorers generally tend not to spend much time around the Bubble visiting bulletin boards and doing missions and, when they do, often it's not for long. TDW would have very little opportunity to reach a person they want to speak to in that way. By taking an action that gets put up on Galnet everyone gets to see it.
To use Galnet in this way, the action must not implicate them as that would attract the attention of unfriendly eyes. It must appeal to the sort of person who might be able to help in the search for Raxxla, so it must contain a puzzle - not an obvious one but it must have something anomalous that will attract attention so that someone thinking it over will realise information is in there. In this case, the art thefts were all of extremely valuable pieces and related to all three superpowers. The thefts were of very specific pieces, when other items were within the thief's reach. To me, it seemed like the thief was sending a message. This time, they have put something valuable back. What they chose to put back was also intended to attract attention as before and I suspect it is another part of the puzzle.
The Winking Cat insignia serves to link the crimes but, as any other symbol could have been chosen, I cannot but suspect it contains information also. I don't know if it is a clue to location or to the thief's identity.
I can understand them finishing off the cultural festival but there was no need for them to put out another Winking Cat incident if it was just fluff. If that was the case they could have pulled it and saved themselves the hassle of publishing it. No one would have missed it or known there was supposed to have been one there.
The Winking Cat series has been going on a while and is not just a single Galnet article. That doesn't mean it's automatically not fluff (though I'm surprised that so many Cultural Festival articles are there, unless their sole purpose was to set up the latest Winking Cat episode). It would surprise me if FD put out another fluff piece that does not connect to anything but other fluff pieces after the Gan Romero situation - which connected potentially to Halsey's visions which is a higher-profile part of ED's storyline.
The 'Imaginal Network Heist' from the 3250's is interesting as the m.o. is the same. I wonder if Wicca's World has a Tourist Beacon nearby that mentions it.