Roadmap leaked??

sandkid

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Silent Pact said:
Forget that. That's a bunch of threads about a whole(???) game(?).
Here's one about a single aspect of ED. Around 103K posts over 11 thread-respawns so far I think.
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/threa...ories-and-tinfoil-hattery.380504/post-5966580
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This is proof that so much potential is wasted in Elite...that isn't even 'gameplay'. I've yet to actually do the whole Thargoid Map Room thing because I can't be bothered to go to the hassle to get the necessary components just to end up in a cool set piece that does nothing but light up and give me a codex entry. The build up to thargoids was generally well executed, if not dragged out, but since?

I have to wonder if they lost an important writer or visionary designer for it to just fizzle out like this. And that's just Thargoids! We also have guardians, Powerplay Shenanigans, engineers, and un-related content like Gnosis and such. So much story opportunity for that personal narrative.

Wasted.
 

Six6VI

Six6VI
sandkid said:
This is proof that so much potential is wasted in Elite...that isn't even 'gameplay'. I've yet to actually do the whole Thargoid Map Room thing because I can't be bothered to go to the hassle to get the necessary components just to end up in a cool set piece that does nothing but light up and give me a codex entry. The build up to thargoids was generally well executed, if not dragged out, but since?

I have to wonder if they lost an important writer or visionary designer for it to just fizzle out like this. And that's just Thargoids! We also have guardians, Powerplay Shenanigans, engineers, and un-related content like Gnosis and such. So much story opportunity for that personal narrative.

Wasted.
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Agreed, some parts of ED+H are a bit, opportunity not yet availed! However...

While the current building site we're playing on does not hold your hand and guide you around all the bare concrete floors, open wall cavities and empty window frames behind the fancy new revolving door beginner experience there may be hidden counters, essential mission objectives to qualify for your Raxxla permit.

It's possible the finishing touches are being deliberately held back until the game is a bit more, finished.
 

VR Golgot

VR Golgot
Interesting, this is the first missed beat from the deeper roadmap predictions:

Frontier signs a multi-year game licence with Formula 1® and two more third party publishing deals

The IP was signed off in May 2019, with dev work supposedly starting in late 2019. [EDIT: Whoops, nope, that's another unannounced IP]

EDIT: In fairness this seems to be a deal struck way down the line, so not one any prior roadmap would have been likely to feature. And the longer term aims would be fuzzier anyway.

But let the further speculation commence ;)
 
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JesusRocks1988

JesusRocks1988
Golgot said:
Interesting, this is the first missed beat from the deeper roadmap predictions:

Frontier signs a multi-year game licence with Formula 1® and two more third party publishing deals

The IP was signed off in May 2019, with dev work supposedly starting in late 2019.

In fairness that means it was signed off after the leak actually happened, and any real long-term roadmap may not have included it at the time. And would always be on the more speculative end in general, regarding longer-term aims.

But let the further speculation commence ;)
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Did not see that coming at all.
 

StuartGT

StuartGT
Golgot said:
Interesting, this is the first missed beat from the deeper roadmap predictions:

Frontier signs a multi-year game licence with Formula 1® and two more third party publishing deals

The IP was signed off in May 2019, with dev work supposedly starting in late 2019.

In fairness that means it was signed off after the leak actually happened, and any real long-term roadmap may not have included it at the time. And would always be on the more speculative end in general, regarding longer-term aims.

But let the further speculation commence ;)
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Game Discussions - Frontier Developments signs a multi-year game licence with Formula 1 - first (of four) F1 management games for PC & console due for 2022 F1 season

https://otp.tools.investis.com/clients/uk/frontier_developments_plc/rns/regulatory-story.aspx?cid=1725&newsid=1377661 Frontier signs a multi-year game licence with Formula 1® and two more third party publishing deals Multi-year exclusive rights to develop and publish F1 management games for PC...
forums.frontier.co.uk
 

Rat Catcher

Rat Catcher
Didn't the 'leak' predict other IP's - as this was likely to be nearing final negotiations at the time one would have expected the potential to be mentioned as 'probable'...

Not quite the "Lego" one though, is it?
 

StuartGT

StuartGT
Golgot said:
Interesting, this is the first missed beat from the deeper roadmap predictions:

Frontier signs a multi-year game licence with Formula 1® and two more third party publishing deals

The IP was signed off in May 2019, with dev work supposedly starting in late 2019.

In fairness that means it was signed off after the leak actually happened, and any real long-term roadmap may not have included it at the time. And would always be on the more speculative end in general, regarding longer-term aims.

But let the further speculation commence ;)
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You're incorrect about the IP being signed off in May 2019 - the second link you included is about a different licenced IP game.

From today's news:
"Following the signing of the F1 Licence and the IP licence previously announced in March 2019, Frontier can now confirm that both of the major new internally developed releases in the financial year ending 31 May 2022 ("FY22") will benefit from major global IP licences and both will be released on multiple platforms. "​
 

Rubbernuke

Rubbernuke
zimms said:
Where did they find that manpower in 2019? 🤭
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You are not...suggesting....what I think you are thinking? Oooo

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Rat Catcher

Rat Catcher
zimms said:
I was obviously joking.

But talking about doubters, I doubt that they hired 100 new developers within one or two months.
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No, they probably took some of the 25 'maintenence & Galnet" staff to start the new project off...
Didn't they just finish the release of one IP, that would have freed up a bunch of Devs?
 

StuartGT

StuartGT
zimms said:
I was obviously joking.

But talking about doubters, I doubt that they hired 100 new developers within one or two months.
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They didn't need to. Planet Coaster, Jurassic World Evolution, and now Planet Zoo, all had their respective devteams reduced in size post-launch. And FDev inceeased their total staffcount by around 60 in 2019 alone.

According to Liberum's report last November, FDev's dev breakdown (total staff 500+) is as follows:

FDEV current developers 407
Liberum assumption headcount breakdown

    • Elite Dangerous 120
    • Planet Coaster 40
    • JWE 40
    • Planet Zoo 45
    • Major licenced IP 60
    • Total developers working on announced games 305
    • Implied developers working on future games 102


Note that the above information was from before this official F1 licence announcement, so the "Major licenced IP" referenced in that table is a different game franchise:

Following the signing of the F1 Licence and the IP licence previously announced in March 2019, Frontier can now confirm that both of the major new internally developed releases in the financial year ending 31 May 2022 ("FY22") will benefit from major global IP licences and both will be released on multiple platforms.
 

Lightspeed

Lightspeed
You can see how the experience of FD with Planet Coaster and Planet Zoo, and ED fit into what this F1 will likely be:
Crowd management and pleasing - lots of people queuing, needing food, seats, etc.
Race Tracks layout from around the world - also design your own track.
Race car technical specs (experience from ED ships) and drive handling variations.
Engineering of cars (also from ED).

So we want to know, where's the flow the other way, into Elite Dangerous ? Watch for New Era, I guess !
 

CMDR Karrde Sun

CMDR Karrde Sun
Holy crap, how do frontier end up picking exactly the subjects that im fond of, space, jp, zoos, now f1.. i don't have my other interests left.

Im not getting my hopes up for anything.

My prediction would be a frontiering of the quite successful motorsport manager games on mobile. They did it with jurassic park operation genesis for jwe, and achieved to frontier calibre reviews and commercial success, so i don't see any reason why they wouldn't do the same thing if its already proven to work. See what happens.
 
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