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I also have a question, I wanted to try the new HUD colors out but why don't I have a Frontier folder on my pc with the config file in it?
You must be looking in a wrong place.
It is possible the game has been installed in %LOCALAPPDATA% — AFAIK that is (or at least used to be) the default location on Pro versions of Windows, unless the launcher was run as admin.
 
I have given up. Frontier got what they wanted.

Since I can not play with my non Odyssey friends on my two main accounts and experience the new 4.0 code Base I decided to activate my Epic game EDH version and create yet another account so I can play with them there.. I now just need to start from scratch on that character.

I assume Epic paid Frontier for the version ages ago. .. I just got it for free and never used it before. So it was not a financial burden for me.
 
One of the early Call Of Duty (Modern Warfare 2 IIRC) games would spit out bags of money or dollar signs or something instead of blood when you killed an opponent in multiplayer. I don't like hyper-realistic gore games, so I actually preferred this "family friendly" version of Call Of Duty. What I don't remember is if this was a setting that could be turned on or off.. In many earlier games, blood was optional.

All that said, does Odyssey even have blood? I don't remember seeing that in any video I've watched. It's also strange how I can send a cruise ship full of happy wedding guests to a terrible death of fire, shrapnel, and the vacuum of space (which is clearly labeled as murder on the UI) and that's still considered child-friendly. Horizons is actually a pretty mature game if you think about it - I can be a drug dealer, a slave smuggler, a mass murderer, and I can feed living people to terrible monsters. Then there's the system chat... And when you compare Odyssey's FPS to many others, it's actually pretty tame. Many games would have limbs and heads flying in every direction if you hit them with dumbfire rockets, but AFAIK Odyssey just rag-dolls characters, no limbs, no blood, no bullet holes, etc.
We’re wringing hands over the distinction between a game rated for 7 year olds vs “teens”. I’m sure odyssey could get away with a lot more and still keep its rating, but the base game was always walking the line considering it’s marketed as being literally for babies.

The best thing Frontier could do is pick a content level and stick to it across the board (probably pick an actual adult rating since the average player is like 70), but as we’ve seen, there’s nothing they love more than hamstringing development to arbitrary outside standards and using this as a reason why they “can’t” do industry-standard X Y or Z thing.
 
And that's different from the current situation how?
If you ask this, then you very likely do not know ED very well ... try think about what is running in the game background. That players cannot play together in one instance is not the same like playing two different games in case of ED. And there is not even mentioned that players purposely itself divides into numerous instances in any of ED version. ED is in nuthsell a single player game which have shared game world. And this shared game world (aka milky way galaxy) is the main core for this game. To have two independent games (Horizons, Odyssey) is completelly different matter as what we have now.
 
If you ask this, then you very likely do not know ED very well ... try think about what is running in the game background. That players cannot play together in one instance is not the same like playing two different games in case of ED. And there is not even mentioned that players purposely itself divides into numerous instances in any of ED version. ED is in nuthsell a single player game which have shared game world. And this shared game world (aka milky way galaxy) is the main core for this game. To have two independent games (Horizons, Odyssey) is completelly different matter as what we have now.
I think you misunderstand what I'm proposing. All I'm saying is Frontier should offer Odyssey without first making people buy (the now obsolete) Horizons. It's purely a change of a couple of settings on the Steam store. I'm not suggesting separating the BGS or even changing the way launcher works. The idea is that if someone who doesn't own Elite at all wants to play Odyssey, why should they have to install Horizons 3.8 first? It's a waste of space and bandwidth, since Odyssey really and truly is an entirely separate program. Of course if a new player wants access to Horizons 3.8, there would be nothing stopping them from buying that as well.

The problem is in the marketing, not the programming; though personally I wish Odyssey was a true DLC that added content to the 3.8 code base rather than replace it with an entirely new program. Right now, today, Horizons and Odyssey ARE two separate programs. That's why one can run without the other installed and vice-versa. However, Odyssey is marketed as needing Horizons to play, which is factually incorrect, except for the initial installation. (I'm speaking specifically about Steam, which is my own point of reference.)

It seems that you are the one who does not know ED very well.. Unless everyone who says they've uninstalled Horizons and continue to play Odyssey are lying, in which case I stand corrected.

EDIT - see my follow-up post for a potential exception to my proposal ---v
 
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I was going to edit my above post, but I don't think I'll be quick enough, so I continue here. There's a caveat to my proposal, perhaps even an Achilles heel - if Horizons 3.8 is someday replaced with Horizons 4.0, then Odyssey as a DLC makes sense. There are plenty of DLCs that are nothing more than "keys" that unlock content already in the game. That seems to be exactly the relationship between H4 and Odyssey.

The fly in the ointment is Horizons 3.8, which is the version people are buying, downloading, and installing on Steam today. This version of Horizons is "obsolete", hence my rightful comparison of it to X3 and Odyssey to X4. If Frontier doesn't want to sell Odyssey as a separate program, then the other "honest" option would be to sell Horizons 4.0 as Horizons, offering Horizons 3.8 as a free "legacy" version. Of course this means changing all the system requirements in the store, but in the long run I think it would be less confusing than the current situation.

And in case you didn't get the memo, I'm a fan (relatively speaking) of version 3.8, but I think the way all these versions are being released and marketed is causing more harm than good.
 
My storage data has lots of scanned data twice with different amounts.
Air quality reports double quantity (25 and 4)
Combatant performance (4 and 42)
Evacuation Protocols (1 and 4)
...

Anyone else having same issue?
I have no idea on how to fix this.

Consumables, Assets and Goods seem to be OK.
It only affects the storage for scanned data.

Found no entry in issue tracker so far.
 
My storage data has lots of scanned data twice with different amounts.
Air quality reports double quantity (25 and 4)
Combatant performance (4 and 42)
Evacuation Protocols (1 and 4)
...

Anyone else having same issue?
I have no idea on how to fix this.

Consumables, Assets and Goods seem to be OK.
It only affects the storage for scanned data.

Found no entry in issue tracker so far.
Long standing Odyssey bug, stolen/mission materials don't stack correctly.
 
My storage data has lots of scanned data twice with different amounts.
Air quality reports double quantity (25 and 4)
Combatant performance (4 and 42)
Evacuation Protocols (1 and 4)
...

Anyone else having same issue?
I have no idea on how to fix this.

Consumables, Assets and Goods seem to be OK.
It only affects the storage for scanned data.

Found no entry in issue tracker so far.

they may appear as separated if they clean or stolen
or mission related
 
Putting that asinine comparison aside for a moment. The logical aspect of this is 1) 3.8 Horizons folks aren't going to want to instance with Odyssey friends in 4.0. 2) 4.0 Horizons folks who want to instance with their Odyssey friends may as well get Odyssey and fully instance with all features that come with Odyssey.
Asinine?! I even gave Odyssey the Lambo, that's it...downgrading Ody to the Corrolla and upgrading 3.8 to the Lambo. To use your non-asinine comparison...what you're telling folks is that if you want to game with your friends you've got to suck it up and pay the tab.
 
So much to catch up on since page 33! Some questions and my (probably wrong) summary for all of you fine folks:

Summary (from what I'm reading ITT):
-If you buy Odyssey, you are buying a one-way ticket and will NOT be able to see or run H4.0 again.
-The H4.0 client that was downloaded is basically just Odyssey with software restrictions such that I don't have space legs, can't walk around inside FCs, lack (some?) graphics features/prettiness, and cannot enter atmospheric planets.

Questions:
1) If I buy Odyssey from a retailer other than Steam, Epic, or Frontier, will it work? Supporting info: I did some digging and it seems I have to do some rigamarole with the product key first with my Frontier account and then do the Partner keys menu option in said Frontier account to get Steam to acknowledge it? Basically, I cannot go straight to Steam with the key because Frontier (and my Frontier account) effectively don't know that I've purchased Odyssey until I do the Frontier account stuff.
2) If I'm trusting for a moment that H4.0 is the tech demo for Odyssey, and if H4.0 is running great on my rig, then can I fully trust that Odyssey will work if I buy it? Supporting info: H4.0 doesn't let me test FC interiors, space legs/space legs combat, or planetside settlements, so I have no way of knowing 100% if my rig will handle the crap that others are encountering. I'm running Win10 Pro, 1TB Samsung 970 Evo Plus NVMe, 5900X, 32GB RAM, 3080Ti FE, 55" 4K TV with VRR. There are definitely others with very similar specs running into FPS issues. If I buy Odyssey and somehow have these issues, it sounds like I'm stuck due to the aforementioned one-way trip and that would be unsat.

I hope what I wrote was clear enough. =X
 
2) If I'm trusting for a moment that H4.0 is the tech demo for Odyssey, and if H4.0 is running great on my rig, then can I fully trust that Odyssey will work if I buy it?

Yes, it's the same thing, but without the limitations imposed by Horizons
With the caveat that the most intensive thing in Odyssey is a Ground Combat Zone - that's where the performance is at its lowest and you cannot really test that in Horizons 4.0
(anyway, your setup will work well even in a Ground CZ in 4k - but by well i would expect 4k/60fps)

1) If I buy Odyssey from a retailer other than Steam, Epic, or Frontier, will it work?

If you have a Frontier Account, you need to buy Odyssey from Frontier Store OR you can link your frontier and steam accounts, then get a Elite dangerous key to add to your steam account and then you can buy Odyssey from Steam too (or an Odyssey steam key from some shady site)
 
Yes, it's the same thing, but without the limitations imposed by Horizons
With the caveat that the most intensive thing in Odyssey is a Ground Combat Zone - that's where the performance is at its lowest and you cannot really test that in Horizons 4.0
(anyway, your setup will work well even in a Ground CZ in 4k - but by well i would expect 4k/60fps)
Copy all. I was afraid of that; not being able to test the most intensive part of the game. As long as it's not the crapshow others have been experiencing with <25fps and such, I could definitely live with 4k60-ish.

If you have a Frontier Account, you need to buy Odyssey from Frontier Store OR you can link your frontier and steam accounts, then get a Elite dangerous key to add to your steam account and then you can buy Odyssey from Steam too (or an Odyssey steam key from some shady site)
Hm. I've had a Frontier Account, Steam Account, and Elite Dangerous for years and years now. I can't quite tell if they're linked but I suspect they are. I have zero issues firing up Steam and launching Elite. Connection to the Elite servers goes smoothly upon loading into the landing page. So... maybe? Probably?

I found a place that is selling Odyssey for a pretty impressive rate and I have purchased from this website before, so I'm thinking about pulling the trigger.

Thanks for the guidance, Northpin! o7
 
...It is the future of Elite, for better or worse...
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Hello,

Yesterday I discovered an interesting thing in horizons 4.0:
I was on planetary mission. I was fined. Okay. As usually - found Interstellar faction and... there is nothing. The screen says I don't have to pay anything, there's no reward on me (but left control panel still said, there is bounty 500 to me). So, i have to exit game, start as horizons 3.8, load game and paid my fine (the same station, the same interstellar faction, my ship has not moved at all), exit game, start as horizons 4.0 and can continue...
It is a bug, or new feature? Anyway I'm not happy from this.
 
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