Yeah. I have checked over 200 systems in the search for Gan Romero just to find out it's just a story, it's not in the game. So no thanks, I'll pass the imagination part.
An open letter to Frontier Development
- Thread starter CMDR Kai Zen
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Pie in the sky talk, but it would be quite nice to have a more organic news system in the game.
This kind of organic info spreading by players is similar to an idea I had for trade data, however that would require each player and station to have their own database of prices that gets cross-seeded every time they dock.
3rd party tools would still do a more comprehensive job, but this would reduce the need to use them.
- Players submit stories to be posted as local news in a specific system.
- Subject to FD approval the news item is posted locally.
- Players who read it also start to seed it. The item gets added to the local news of the next few stations they dock at.
- If an item crosses a reader threshold, say 1000 unique reads, it gets posted to Galnet.
This kind of organic info spreading by players is similar to an idea I had for trade data, however that would require each player and station to have their own database of prices that gets cross-seeded every time they dock.
3rd party tools would still do a more comprehensive job, but this would reduce the need to use them.
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I'm not denying the imagination part of the game. I'm saying everything should be reflected by the gameplay. This guy literally loves Gan Romero's story. While many people searched for him in the game for days with hopes to find him, OP probably read the Galnet news and sit down and dreamed about him. That's not a game.
That's a completely different thing. I mean, you still think you fly a spaceship. You think you fight Thargoids. You think you have an Elite combat rank and are aligned to somebody calles Zachary Hudson.
All of that are very much imaginated things. Nothing is real. (Sorry to tell you that. ) So I think you actually very much do buy into the illusion of the game. If you wouldn't, there'd be not much reason to be here, I think.
What you point as an example is a different problem. It's not on the imaginary part. It was some massive flaw of communication there. It's one of the things FD now uses as reason not to do it any more: they had a problem distinguishing between mere "flavor" text and things pointing towards in-game events. Things got muddled up.
So yes, things went wrong there. But that's also covered in this thread. More than once it was said that a very simple marker of "actually is connected to in-game mechanics" would solve this. With this marker in place, this confusion would not happen any more. So we could have all the fluff, while it would not mislead people into such fruitless searches. A victory for both sides.
As the game world is part of the game, it in a way is part of the game even when just pondering about him. Yet I do agree that the story, seeming to be happening in game, but actually being on GalNet only, was not handled well. But that's not a reason to hate it and to get rid of it. It'd be much better for the game if this is upgraded, so either kind of player knows what he's looking at and knows if and how he can make use of it.
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It's going to be a long wait until 2020vision.
You have a very strange definition of 'no work required'...
Maybe if everyone who wants the fluff back could say how many months they are willing to delay FC and New Era in order to add the fluff it would help change fdevs mind. Though I doubt you will be able to persuade them to put New Era back more than 6 months as they already announced it would be next financial year. I guess they could postpone FC again - if that's what you really want - but I believe some people are waiting for new content and may disagree ...
Galnet news is not fluff; it is (or could be) critical information on what's going on. It would be no good having new content if nobody knows about it, would it? The point is that the community is creating lots of good stuff which just isnt visible to many players. FDev as a business, Elite as a game, and plenty of players are losing out on the value of all of this.
Moderating a handful of news articles is unlikely to delay the 'new era'. You never know: hopefully more player/communityengagement will be part of the new era, it could fit well with base building, space legs/FPS elements.
Cheers Stephen, if a tad disappointing
Here's hoping New Era is a resounding success both financially and popularity, so that FDev's top-brass feel justified in substantially expanding & supporting the Elite Dangerous devteam to 150+ people. Because with respect to the current 100 devteam and their excellent efforts & productions, it's clear that they are simply too stetched to meet the MMO demands of constant feature/content/narrative/event/expansion additions & live maintenance.
My best wishes to the team in these strenuous times
Ozric
Volunteer Moderator
So all the stories about Halsey and Palin, were meaningless the whole time? There's actually nothing in game to do with the original creators, or Palin's kidnappings and there was never intended to be? All of the background on the powers and the internal struggles that made the galaxy feel alive were, in Frontier's eyes, meaningless. I say meaningless because you are happy to just drop them all without any consideration.
When you said the use of Galnet was changing to focus on in-game events, I actually thought that this sort of stuff was what you meant, alongside IIs and CGs obviously. When it was announced that they were on hold, I had still expected Galnet articles to continue.
I can now see that my hope was misplaced, at least I won't expect it to start up again, certainly not for a year at least if you decide to start using it again. What exactly was the point of Galnet Audio? Sorry I'm massively disappointed.
Thanks for letting me know, didn't read the rest.
Sure...what else did you expect from us? We are playing GAMES!!! With SPACESHIPS!!!
You're the one who, obviously, is taking this whole thing here far TOO serious.
Meh. Then sorry. That part was the cheeky one. The rest was much friendlier.
It provides context to why, at the current time, my plans to find an alternative to Elite Dangerous are unlikely to change.
I'm afraid you're wasting your time. That was just a convenient straw man at worst or a very, very insignificant part of the real reason at best. It's all about available manpower and priorities. This whole "we don't want to confuse our poor players" is PR sugar coating (and a bit patronizing imho).
Unfortunately Frontier's communication has gotten more and more EA-like (other soulless publishers are available). Obviously it's their decision how they want to handle things, but they shouldn't be surprised if at some point they end up with a community like the one of an average EA game as well.
A lot of good will has definitely been lost over the last couple of months/years and it's sad to see.
I'm honest...If there was another SpaceSim for VR like ED is imo, I would seriously think about changing.
You mean like in the good old days?
Galnet News | Elite Dangerous Community Site
Galnet News | Elite Dangerous Community Site
Galnet News | Elite Dangerous Community Site
Exactly...It would be awesome when even the results were released after an event. Good Ol' times, indeed.You mean like in the good old days?
Galnet News | Elite Dangerous Community Site
community.elitedangerous.com
Galnet News | Elite Dangerous Community Site
Galnet News | Elite Dangerous Community Site
I see the Fountain Of Youth has done wonders with your avatarFrontier has just announced that they don't plan on doing anything with GalNet, so we might as well throw down our picket signs and go home
Now I just need to decide what to do with this avatar...