The Joystick/Controller discussion thread
So multiple controllers doesnt work yet?
I was thinking of getting the premium beta but that would ruin my day since im on the logitech g940 which shows as 3 separate controllers =/
Yaffle
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You may find it more effective to put roll on the joystick and yaw elsewhere, yaw is very weak compared to roll. However, if that's how you roll (pun intended), stick with it.
As for positioning, have you tried on your chair seat, sitting back in the chair, so your coccyx is against the chair back? Depending on the relative sizes of you and your chair seat you may be able to hold is still with your thighs and have it similar to many modern fighter-jets. Your arm is at a slightly more natural angle than if the stick is on a desk.
Yes but you need version 5.5 of the TrackIR software. (or at least not version 4 which I had)
It works great once setup, but I had to set it up with a custom profile to get it to work properly. the various axis were inverse and to much movement left you out side the ship!
Cheers
Yes but you need version 5.5 of the TrackIR software. (or at least not version 4 which I had)
It works great once setup, but I had to set it up with a custom profile to get it to work properly. the various axis were inverse and to much movement left you out side the ship!
Cheers
Tnx mate, well i pulled the trigger on the premium beta and have tried the first few missions! Overall I must say that im deeply impressed by what im told is the first alpha version of the game!
I got the stick working but feel very limited without the throttle and its thumbsticks so looking forward alot to may 30th.
TrackIR was acting weird at first but i disabled x and y movement of it and now its great!
Also I hope there is some force feedback support coming to this game. I know many dont use FFB sticks anymore, but for me it adds to the immersion of the game.
Also, since the Logitech g940 uses FFB to adjust centering and actual force needed to move the stick its essential to be able to configure it properly.
In any case, back to shooting stuff!
I should receive my CH pedals next week, and I'm wondering about jumping the gun and buying into premium beta early (I've been planning on doing it late next month). I seem to recall that the 1.1 Alpha has a lot of trouble with multiple controllers.
Will I be able to use the separate CH throttle and stick? I'm pretty sure I won't be able to use the pedals.
If the 1.1 alpha would be updated to include the controller fixes I'd buy it like a shot, but I think I'll spare myself the frustration for now if I couldn't map the controls properly yet anyway.
Will I be able to use the separate CH throttle and stick? I'm pretty sure I won't be able to use the pedals.
If the 1.1 alpha would be updated to include the controller fixes I'd buy it like a shot, but I think I'll spare myself the frustration for now if I couldn't map the controls properly yet anyway.
As far as I can tell (after my glorious 60 mins with the combat test!) the game will only detect one controller for you.
As of now, the only way to get this working is to you thirdparty software like PPJoy and the likes to map the different controllers to one single virtual device. It would work but I have not done this myself (yet) and have no idea how difficult it is to set it all up.
I also wish they would update the alpha1 (beta) with support for multi controllers!
Given that it appears as a separate device, had anyone tried using the CH throttle with a non-CH Stick?
Curious, because I would like a throttle with an analogue thumbstick for thrusters, but would also like rudder control and don't have room for pedals.
Curious, because I would like a throttle with an analogue thumbstick for thrusters, but would also like rudder control and don't have room for pedals.
I'd assume so seeing how it is sold seperatly and as you say shows up as a separate device.
Now here's a question. Is the CH Throttle seriously the only throttle sold separately? Besides things like the Saitek throttle quadrants it's the only throttle I've seen sold separately from a stick. Bit of a shame.
There are these:
On Amazon for £41.
Looks like the throttle and stick are on separate USB connections, and you get a joystick with it too.
No idea what they're like though, could be rubbish.
On Amazon for £41.
Looks like the throttle and stick are on separate USB connections, and you get a joystick with it too.
No idea what they're like though, could be rubbish.
No problem mate, glad you joined in the fun!
It really is a great little game to get you used to the way the ships handle, and very nice surprise for us beta testers to get early access to it. So thanks Frontier! I used to love force feedback, I had one of the first generation Microsoft Sidewinder Force Feedback, and I loved it. Unfortunately it was Gameport and support was lost, so it just sits in a loft somewhere!
It's a shame that all the top end sticks don't seem to come with a force option. but I guess It would make expensive sticks prohibitive. I didn't even bother to look for a force stick this time.cheers
Works just fine for me. Do all the assignments in the controls screen and it should work.
Edit - just realised you may be only using the single player build that you get if you apply to the Premium Beta, in which case no, it won't work in that version.
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It should work just fine. I considered the T.16000M for the stick
And I humbly beg to differ with you. There are all kinds of external vibration sources even in space sim. And also having some FFB effects just adds to realism. There are no real space fighters in real life so you don't really know how the joystick reacts to specific situations. G forces exist in space as well so I believe that would affect ship controls also. I plan to use G940 HOTAS from Logitech (already tested in ALPHA) and really hope that they will implement some FFB support for say missile launch, collisions etc. I also hope the at they have fixed throttle and pedals, from what I hear support for all 3 devices in HOTAS is coming in alpha 4 as well as a profile for G940 (finally).
I don't own one yet, but the X52 and its big Pro brother are mentioned so often in threads like these, there's got to be something to them. If you look closely at the developer videos, even Mr. Braben's team is flying with those!
Really thinking of picking up one of these babies myself, both for Elite as well as MWO, where it has been praised by a lot of players, too. Now I just need to find a store in the EU that sells them for a good price - if I end up having to import one, the customs fees are ridiculous.
There are better than X52, but for the money X52 is the one. It doesn't have pedals though. But that's I guess for complete immersion which requires adjusting the PC desk or getting a flight chair which only enthusiasts want to bother with. But in general X52 is a great joystick for the money that's why so many have it.
FFB adds to the immersion, realistic or not!
In space, vibrations from hits and collisions or guns firing and such could be simulated.
But forces from hard maneuvering shouldnt affect controllers, aside from the fact that there are no air to put forces on the control surfaces everything will be fly-by-wire and so no force will be felt in the controls themselves.
Then again, for immersion im willing to put realism aside =)
Besides, one could always argue that artificial forces could be put into the flight control system to enhance the awareness and thus the effectiveness of the pilot.
i have an x52...it's hard work programming but i am working on it slowy.
it is making this game awsome!!!
but i am working on it slowy.it is making this game awsome!!!
Editable, printable X52 configuration
Have searched the forums for a downloadable and editable (word/exel) layout sheet for the X52 - non pro without success. Does anyone have a link to such a thing? Could be handy to have stuck next to the screen just in case 'one' forgets button assignments in combat!
I've a day off tomorrow so will make one for everyone to share if there isn't one already in circulation - maybe someone's done this already?
in the meantime here's a link to a few static jpg's if anyone needs em (-:
Have searched the forums for a downloadable and editable (word/exel) layout sheet for the X52 - non pro without success. Does anyone have a link to such a thing? Could be handy to have stuck next to the screen just in case 'one' forgets button assignments in combat!
I've a day off tomorrow so will make one for everyone to share if there isn't one already in circulation - maybe someone's done this already?
in the meantime here's a link to a few static jpg's if anyone needs em (-:
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Thanks for the suggestion, I might give that a go. Finding my cheapo Blackwidow has about quarter the buttons I want, and half the buttons I need.