The Quest To Find Raxxla

[CMDRCorrMorningstarFelian]

Lina Mater (Gentle Mother)

The Dark Mother is only gentle to those who work with her. There are reasons Gaia (and all similar goddesses) are simultaneously nurturing and feared. The difference between angel and demon is largely dependent on where one is standing.

The Many Epithets of Hekate - For Puck’s Sake

An epithet is an honorary and praiseful descriptive title used as part of a name.The following is a list I compiled of Hekate's many historical epithets.

www.patheos.com

 

[ThArGos]

Dear Raxxla seekers,

I would like to share with you something I've been looking into since a few days now.

The starting point of my investigations is PMD2009 48 also known as the last beacon of the Michael Brooks tour.
This tour starts with a megaship with a decal 'Raxxla Ho!' and ends with a beacon explicitly mentionning Raxxla.
Apart from the codex those are the only other mentions in the game.
I thought we were put on a track. I tried to keep things simple.
PMD2009 48 is located in the Orion Nebula. This region is filled with stars from official catalogs like 2MASS.
PMD2009 systems (there are 15) do not exist in "real life".
This seemed quite odd to me and thought they must have been put there manually. I decided to go to all of these.
I quickly realized that they are all perfectly aligned except for one which is dangling below: PMD2009 183.

And fast by hanging in a golden Chain
This pendant world, in bigness as a Starr

I obviously thought about the golden chain and the pendent world.
Then just next to this specific system I saw a system named Legacy. This started to be a lot of coincidences as this is the name of the book written by Michael Brooks.
I then realized this chain of systems is perfectly aligned with Sol.
I wanted to be sure so I wrote a piece of code to check that out:

You can see for yourself here (sorry it's been written very quickly and it's not a nice looking page):

Élite Dangereuse - Outil d'aide à la recherche de Raxxla pour le jeu Elite Dangerous

Page

elitedangereuse.fr

Along that quest I have seen other strange features only visible near the end of the chain of systems (PMD2009 32 for instance).
It's barely visible but there's a polygonal shape visible from here, just above us:

Farr off th' Empyreal Heav'n, extended wide
In circuit, undetermind square or round,

But I feel this may only be pareidolia and I should focus on the chain of PMD2009 systems and the text of Lost Paradise book 2 close to the quote of the beacon.
So I looked at blue stars because a Saphire is blue:

Of living Saphire, once his native Seat

There are a few O, B and A spectral type stars around. I haven't seen them all yet.
What do you think?
Why is PMD2009 183 dangling below, just 1.5 LY from the Legacy system?
Why are the PMD2009 chain of systems perfectly aligned with sol?
I tried hearing with the FSS a lot but found nothing particular.
There are two PMD2009 systems with shepherd moons:
PMD2009 183 (4 A and 4 B)
PMD2009 72 (4 A and 4B)

This pendant world, in bigness as a Starr
Of smallest Magnitude close by the Moon.

I've been searching for gas giants with shepherd moon in this region.
So far I have not come to anything conclusive.
I don't care if I'm not the one finding raxxla, but I feel that together we can do this.
Raxxla Ho! sounds a lot like Gung Ho! to me:
Wikipedia says it means "Work Together — Work in Harmony."

Thanks for your feedback.
o7

 

[Han_Zen]

Dear Raxxla seekers,

I would like to share with you something I've been looking into since a few days now.

The starting point of my investigations is PMD2009 48 also know as the last beacon of the Michael Brooks tour.
This tour starts with a megaship with a decal 'Raxxla Ho!' and ends with a beacon explicitly mentionning Raxxla.
Apart from the codex those are the only other mentions in the game.
I thought we were put on a track. I tried to keep things simple.
PMD2009 48 is located in the Orion Nebula. This region is filled with stars from official catalogs like 2MASS.
PMD2009 systems (there are 15) do not exist in "real life".
This seemed quite odd to me and thought they must have been put there manually. I decided to go to all of these.
I quickly realized that they are all perfectly aligned except for one which is dangling below: PMD2009 183.

I obviously thought about the golden chain and the pendent world.
Then just next to this specific system I saw a system named Legacy. This started to be a lot of coincidences as this is the name of the book written by Michael Brooks.
I then realized this chain of systems is perfectly aligned with Sol.
I wanted to be sure so I wrote a piece of code to check that out:
View attachment 363967

You can see for yourself here (sorry it's been written very quickly and it's not a nice looking page):

Élite Dangereuse - Outil d'aide à la recherche de Raxxla pour le jeu Elite Dangerous

Page

elitedangereuse.fr

Along that quest I have seen other strange features only visible near the end of the chain of systems (PMD2009 32 for instance).
It's barely visible but there's a polygonal shape visible from here, just above us:

View attachment 363968
View attachment 363970

But I feel this may only be pareidolia and I should focus on the chain of PMD2009 systems and the text of Lost Paradise book 2 close to the quote of the beacon.
So I looked at blue stars because a Saphire is blue:

There are a few O, B and A spectral type stars around. I haven't seen them all yet.
What do you think?
Why is PMD2009 183 dangling below, just 1.5 LY from the Legacy system?
Why are the PMD2009 chain of systems perfectly aligned with sol?
I tried hearing with the FSS a lot but found nothing particular.
There are two PMD2009 systems with shepherd moons:
PMD2009 183 (4 A and 4 B)
PMD2009 72 (4 A and 4B)


I've been searching for gas giants with shepherd moon in this region.
So far I have not come to anything conclusive.
I don't care if I'm not the one finding raxxla, but I feel that together we can do this.
Raxxla Ho! sounds a lot like Gung Ho! to me:
Wikipedia says it means "Work Together — Work in Harmony."

Thanks for your feedback.
o7

The PMD2009 stars do exist in RL. http://simbad.cds.unistra.fr/simbad...&Radius=2&Radius.unit=arcmin&submit=submit+id

I think PMD stands for 'propper motion detection'.

The estimated distance to stars that are that far away is not very accurate, but the angle is. This gives the 'sting of stars' effect, when imported into a 3D environment. There are several of these stings in the game. They all point to Sol.

All this does of course not mean that FD haven't used this phenomena to their advantage, when creating some mysterious content.

 

[Jorki Rasalas]

@ThArGos
See Wikipedia entry on Two Micron All-Sky Survey

2MASS - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

They all point to Sol because the survey was conducted using Earth-based telescopes. As Han_Zen says the distance measurements are pretty suspect.
This sort of thing happens frequently. Check any stars you suspect against the Simbad astronomical database (https://simbad.cds.unistra.fr/mobile/) as the in-game names may differ depending on which IRL star catalogue FD used to import the data. Some stars have many, many names!

 

[ThArGos]

Oh thanks @Han_Zen and @Jorki Rasalas for your detailed comments ! I didn't find them and was wondering about the meaning of PMD.

 

[Rochester]

Yup what they said. The cataloging of RL stars is not spread across our entire field of view from Sol, they are usually focused upon one small area of scientific interest, Pulsars etc, any stars in direct line of sight are catalogued as well.

FD imported these by hand, they didn’t import everything, and they made mistakes, but failed to identify many of these anomalies in a 3D sense, it’s prominent throughout the game.

There are multiple weird hand placed names in these strings, theres Tycho in Orion which has no reason to be there etc.. but I wouldn’t put it past FD to utilising them to drop hints!

Maybe the system ‘Legacy’ is there because they what you to read Michael Brookes book, because it holds more clues!

Besides our pendant world was fixed from the floor/wall of heaven, and the distance was of no great length.

That specific quote of Milton is open to interpretation, but I always felt it simply states Paradise shone like a star in brilliance, in the void of chaos, but it was small relative to the brilliance and size of the heavens, as like a star is in comparison with the moon seen from Earth.

It’s also generally accepted Milton intentionally blurred his descriptive descriptions, to give us a dizzying sense of incomprehension of the enormous distance he is attempting to convey (which are truly mind boggling for that period).

Plus I may be wrong but the constellation of Orion has no import on Paradise Lost. It was I think used to convey a tempest / storm. But generally these stars existed within the same spherical shell as we did. Outside of that globe was just chaos, heaven and hell… constellations we’re used in the text, but from memory I believe they only were utilised to convey the path of Lucifer when he descended into our sphere, then flew through our universe, down through the spheres!

But nevertheless, great work.

 

[Jorki Rasalas]

Yup what they said. The cataloging of RL stars is not spread across our entire field of view from Sol, they are usually focused upon one small area of scientific interest, Pulsars etc, any stars in direct line of sight are catalogued as well.

FD imported these by hand, they didn’t import everything, and they made mistakes, but failed to identify many of these anomalies in a 3D sense, it’s prominent throughout the game.

There are multiple weird hand placed names in these strings, theres Tycho in Orion which has no reason to be there etc.. but I wouldn’t put it past FD to utilising them to drop hints!

Maybe the system ‘Legacy’ is there because they what you to read Michael Brookes book, because it holds more clues!

Besides our pendant world was fixed from the floor/wall of heaven, and the distance was of no great length.

That specific quote of Milton is open to interpretation, but I always felt it simply states Paradise shone light a star in brilliance, in the void of chaos, but it was small relative to the brilliance and size of the heavens, as like a star is in comparison with the moon see from Earth.

It’s also generally accepted Milton intentionally blurred his descriptive descriptions, to give us a dizzying sense of incomprehension of the enormous distance he is attempting to convey (which are truly mind boggling for that period).

Plus I may be wrong but the constellation of Orion has no import on Paradise Lost. It was Inthink used to convey a tempest / storm. But generally these stars existed within the same spherical shell as we did. Outside of that globe was just chaos, heaven and hell… constellations we’re used in the text, but from memory I believe they only were utilised to convey the path of Lucifer when he decided into our sphere, then flew through our universe, down through the spheres!

But nevertheless, great work.

Pendant attached to the floor of Heaven... so since Yorkshire is God’s Own Country I’m guessing you need to look near Woolley Edge Service Station, or Skipton, or Whitby, or Robin Hood’s Bay!

You say “blurred his descriptive descriptions, to give us a dizzying sense of incomprehension”?

I say “blind bewilderment & mythologically-challenged, underpinned by deep fernweh and terminal frustration”!

 

[Edelgard von Rhein]

Context on this:

Find the King of the Grove (TDW) - Underworld

Find Raxxla - back to Eden

Pray you can stop what is coming with the knowledge gained during the Quest.

Interesting - so perhaps The Dark Wheel base is in the Underworld region?!

Thanks for linking the Wikipedia articles; it does make more sense now. Especially with Darik Cavus being an escaped slave!
I am going to see how Artemis lines up with Hecate and other related goddesses (I know Hors, a moon goddess, is in the game as it is permit-locked and needs EDIT: Federal Navy Auxiliary rank to unlock). There may be another triangle, like with Migard-Alioth-Bifrost, that will help to define a region to search.

 

[Rochester]

O7

My classics are rusty, but I think the Triad goddess were venerated within groves (a rather pan-European element there, Saxons venerated groves). And Hecate wore a crown / had a crown like two horns / crescent like the moon!

 

[Rochester]

Just mapped the fates, in relation to the Greek gods and the Greek wind compass the Anemoi. It still corresponds to my minds eye, and the fates triangulate nicely, but their alignment seems off / or does it?

*White denotes the Greek god’s systems linked to the story of Persephone. Green line denotes the Greek north wind compass. Orange line denotes the 3 fates - Clotho, Atropos and Lachesis.

They sit nicely up high with Helios, but don’t seem to sit ‘around’ any common axis?

 

[Edelgard von Rhein]

Yes, I've bookmarked these systems in-game and cleared away a few old ones to help me see more clearly but finding groups of deities is not helping me right now - e.g. there's Zeus almost next door to Artemis but that doesn't help me know where to search, it only tells me the placement is not likely to be random. The location along the axis in your diagrams that I read as being about one third along from heaven to hell passes through the core systems and is not that far from the new starter systems. I feel that I am not reading the diagrams right. A shame Ordnance Survey do not make treasure maps!

I am still stuck on a route to take from Persephone but the Bridge system is separate from all the deities and off to one side of the Bubble, so I'm not sure that's the right path to take.

I noticed that the Maeve system is very close to Paradiso but there's nothing of interest in either system. Paradiso is empty and Maeve is low population - I mapped and flew by the two ringed gas giants there and found no points of light in the rings.

 

[Jorki Rasalas]

You’ll probably only get points of light in the rings from something as large as a megaship. I expect the Omphalos Rift to be ring asteroid/suitcase-sized, & labelled “Liverpool Street Lost Luggage Office”...
Think the Rift will expand when activated & suck you in (to the tentacles of Cthulhu...)

 

[Rochester]

Between the worlds

Recently I’ve been looking at various directional elements, as an attempt at confirming or discounting various theories.

In one of these I applied the Anemoi or Greek wind compass theory. Thanks to the insight of @Jorki Rasalas, regarding Aeolus the Greek god of wind; h welled refresh my memory and I realised there were more of these winds represented in game than simply just North and South.

I had intentionally previously ignored them, because they simply did not correlate to each other, so I discarded them. I only applied the N/S Anemoi recently as a test, and was surprised by the correlation with Norse mythology and Greek mythology.

In an attempt to test this theory for bias I returned to those lesser winds and found I had actually not taken account for another Greek wind compass, Aristotles meteorology, which utilises many of the same points as the Anemoi.

The Anemoi found in game:
Boreas = N; Zephyrus = W; Eurus = E; Notus = S; Kaikias = NE is not in game; Apeliotes = SE is not in game; Lips = SW and Aeolus god of winds.

Aristotles meteorology in game
Aparctias = N; Caecias = NE; Apeliotes = E but not in game; Eurus = SE; Notos = S; Lips = SW; Zephyrus = W; Argestes = NW

This is when I noted certain discrepancies, obviously these two philosophies have an historical separation. But my thinking would presume if they were both put in game arbitrarily there ought not be any correlation. The following is both layers combined.

 

[El Saico]

Between the worlds

Recently I’ve been looking at various directional elements, as an attempt at confirming or discounting various theories.

In one of these I applied the Anemoi or Greek wind compass theory. Thanks to the insight of @Jorki Rasalas, regarding Aeolus the Greek god of wind; h welled refresh my memory and I realised there were more of these winds represented in game than simply just North and South.

I had intentionally previously ignored them, because they simply did not correlate to each other, so I discarded them. I only applied the N/S Anemoi recently as a test, and was surprised by the correlation with Norse mythology and Greek mythology.

In an attempt to test this theory for bias I returned to those lesser winds and found I had actually not taken account for another Greek wind compass, Aristotles meteorology, which utilises many of the same points as the Anemoi.

The Anemoi found in game:
Boreas = N; Zephyrus = W; Eurus = E; Notus = S; Kaikias = NE is not in game; Apeliotes = SE is not in game; Lips = SW and Aeolus god of winds.

View attachment 363989

Aristotles meteorology in game
Aparctias = N; Caecias = NE; Apeliotes = E but not in game; Eurus = SE; Notos = S; Lips = SW; Zephyrus = W; Argestes = NW

View attachment 363990

This is when I noted certain discrepancies, obviously these two philosophies have an historical separation. But my thinking would presume if they were both put in game arbitrarily there ought not be any correlation. The following is both layers combined.

View attachment 363992

Now; is this random, in error, arbitrary or intentional? What happens if we overlay these with our Greek gods; Yggdrasil theory?

View attachment 363993

Personally, I still feel the North / South alignment is correct. However Aristotles version seems be in alignment with Artemis and Hecate! I find this most peculiar.

Perhaps Milton's own wavering between the Ptolemaic and Copernican astronomical models might play a role?

 

[CMDRCorrMorningstarFelian]

Perhaps Milton's own wavering between the Ptolemaic and Copernican astronomical models might play a role?

At this point and given the levels of obfuscation, this is probably likely.

On a slightly related note: we should probably read through Michael Brookes site to gather ideas.

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[CMDRCorrMorningstarFelian]

On that note: Brookes wrote the Raxxla stuff apparently but Allen Stroud weaved the Holdstock stuff with the modern lore. Stroud probably took guidance from Brookes when merging the lore. Brookes ideas are at least in part connected to themes from Holdstock.

Probably worth a read. Any theme that Stroud and Brookes reference is probably worth considering.

Elite Dangerous's core lore person isn't Michael Brookes .. examining the breadcrumb trail of Allen Stroud

This is a repost from Independent Raxxla Hunters discord where someone had mentioned the lore stream and the fact there might be Raxxla references elsewhere. This is my response because it is has become increasingly evident Michael Brookes while instrumental in building the Elite Dangerous...

forums.frontier.co.uk

 

[Rochester]

It’s all open source, but would recommend a level of decorum and respect when data-diving, let’s keep it respectful please.

O7

 

[CMDRCorrMorningstarFelian]

It’s all open source, but would recommend a level of decorum and respect when data-diving, let’s keep it respectful please.

O7

There is nothing inherently wrong with reading the public posting of the authors especially in Stroud's case where he makes direct references. It really is no different than reading their books and looking for themes.

Honestly, analysis of the tattoo is probably worse but the links I posted have images of it that Brookes posted that you can download.

He clearly wanted us to understand these ideas.

 

[Rochester]

True, blogs d Edtc are not social media, they’re targeted at an audience so all open source. My intent was simply to remind us to be respectful

 

[CMDRCorrMorningstarFelian]

Interesting find. Brookes wrote a lot on Tau Ceti. Tau Ceti is of course where the Raxxla rumors originated. It mentions galaxies and Small and Large Megallanic Clouds (also referenced by Holdstock). Andromeda Galaxy is also mentioned (also a Holdstock reference).

The Tau Ceti Mission

Follow the Venti probe on its historic twelve light year journey to the Tau Ceti star system.

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