What are your sources of info about the club (in this depth). Sorry for noob-ish question but I started playing just after the rift mystery and never fully caught up
Primarily ED: Premonition. I recently got around to finally buying and reading it, and it is a mind blowing treasure trove of info about the Club. I used to believe that our knowledge of TC was nebulous at best, but i didnt realize this book contains entire chapters detailing Club meetings and such.

Edit: i've talked a lot of smack about Drew Wagar in the past. Really, this vitriol was fueled by the ways FD handled his narrative. I realize now i was at fault and cannot endorse his book more. Excellently informational and entertaining read.
 
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I did encounter a Dark Wheel npc at one of the SD moons, can’t remember which. It showed interest in any cargo I might be carrying (wasn’t), then it just bumbled around as they usually do until I lost interest and waked away.

SD is the obvious place for TDW station (need to be elite to get the permit, though the npcs often aren’t-odd!), but it might need a bit of searching; I’ve not seen any signs of it. Beginning to think it might not be orbiting an 8th moon! Started to look at other moons also when out exploring. If the Horizons start screen is a clue, then it’s by two close icy moons.

Over the course of several days I followed every TDW ship I cam across in SD until they were no longer trackable. Nothing panned out, nothing even remotely out of the ordinary.
 
The galaxy map is a very entertaining tool in this game. Last night I had a two hour window marked for Elite, and instead of doing my usual job of jumping and probing I spent those hours exploring the map. There are a LOT of strange whispers, chimes, dings, and other audio distortions depending on how much you're zoomed in, where your cursor is placed, what star you've clicked onto, etc. I even tried zooming in to Sag. A* and holding the rotation hotkey down to make my own "spiraling stars". I started to see some craaaaaaazy images doing this. An optical illusion I'm sure... but boy, what a fun evening!
 

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...nothing even remotely out of the ordinary.
Such a secretive (The real Dark Wheel) organisation wouldn't show itself doing anything out of the ordiinary, logically. That's the reason and meaning of having SD TDW so visible. The apparent top of the iceberg.
The more I think to it, the more I am afraid we can't have any kind of interaction with TDW until we are tested and invited... if there is such a thing implemented in ED !
I would love to be proven wrong, though.
 
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If ( and I am agreeing with Noobilite post here ) there is an explorer spirit here then I think we to look into the history of Elite and maybe study the Codex a little more. How did a bunch of people find Raxxla? Why and how was the Dark Wheel formed? These guys did not have the technology of what we have today. So tracing back history and lore might be a key.
We might think ourselves mighty explorers but back then the Jump Drive was a difficult thing. I have noticed that using max jump range I am visiting the same systems I went to before. Ie, I retraced my steps ( in a longer range ) ship back to the NGC nebulae and I was back in systems I had previously explored, now in a ship with a 30+ extra ly jump range. Almost like the planning uses waypoints. Back in the day the most powerful of ships ( with a drive ) had a maximum of 7ly. Perhaps that is the key. Perhaps if we go old school and plot the progression of colonization and exploration history-wise in something the original pioneers did then that will set us on course.
Replying in an RP style to try and take into consideration some of the concerns expressed recently about the 'been there done that' crowd...

It's always good to look into history cmdr. I can't promise you'll find anything which will lead to that which you seek, but you might find other things, and who knows what they might reveal.

Some final advice,
Even before the B of the Bang you have begun.
Beware the assumptions of others.



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Could somebody point me to the source of this quote? I thought it was from Robert Holdstock's The Dark Wheel, but I just checked that out and didn't find it.
It does credit Holdstock in The Holdstock Report, but it doesn't indicate where it came from.

"One of their stories is the legend of the Great Ship, an account of a mysterious race that lives in the Dark Wheel - a galaxy named thus because it is shrouded in black clouds of intergalactic dust and gas. This race is supposedly Human, for they are bipedal, smooth-skinned, five-fingered, and have a legend of uurth, the Mother World that spawned them. Equally indisputable is the fact that they colonised the Dark Wheel while the Human race was still in the Stone Age.

It is now known that during the first phase of Humankind's expansion into the stars, a generation ship, populated by more than a million colonists, passed through a warp fault in space and was flung across time and space emerging into the Narathnu Sector at a time when no galaxies in that area had yet developed fully intelligent life. The Humans settled many worlds in the Dark Wheel, but it is thought that their passage through the warp hole had affected their minds, causing them to be intensely suspicious of contact with other intelligent races"
 
Something for Han Zen since its almost time for the Qixi Festival :D

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Could somebody point me to the source of this quote? I thought it was from Robert Holdstock's The Dark Wheel, but I just checked that out and didn't find it.
It does credit Holdstock in The Holdstock Report, but it doesn't indicate where it came from.

"One of their stories is the legend of the Great Ship, an account of a mysterious race that lives in the Dark Wheel - a galaxy named thus because it is shrouded in black clouds of intergalactic dust and gas. This race is supposedly Human, for they are bipedal, smooth-skinned, five-fingered, and have a legend of uurth, the Mother World that spawned them. Equally indisputable is the fact that they colonised the Dark Wheel while the Human race was still in the Stone Age.

It is now known that during the first phase of Humankind's expansion into the stars, a generation ship, populated by more than a million colonists, passed through a warp fault in space and was flung across time and space emerging into the Narathnu Sector at a time when no galaxies in that area had yet developed fully intelligent life. The Humans settled many worlds in the Dark Wheel, but it is thought that their passage through the warp hole had affected their minds, causing them to be intensely suspicious of contact with other intelligent races"
I'm thinking this is from the dark wheel novella. So far it's the only one that I've actually finished reading I'm on and here the wheel right now but I haven't finished it and I know I've read that text somewhere before. so with Robert holdstock as the author of the dark wheel novella and him being credited for the quotes I'm certain it's from the dark wheel.
 
I would assume it would not be access to the station but the system. This goes against the Codex entry but that entry is just mere speculation in itself being the word of a journalist. If the station is indeed 'dark' then it HAS to cloak itself due to regular traffic jumping to and from the system. I would not place it in a heavily populated system either. The station might be able to mask its signature but the ships won't.
And jumpable stations. Well, that's been proven to exist and I would not put that technology past this group.
You wouldn't necessarily see the traffic going TO that system if they always jumped in via a third, non-populated / anarchy star first and coming back the other way there's no way to track an origin.
 
TDW are part of the PF.
I dont think there is any evidence that TDW are evil. It was a member of TDW that was assassinated for gaining evidence of Raxxla.
Government evil...almost certainly...but the corporations worse. Sirus, Aegis,etc

I truly hope we are not TDW. That would be such a cop out. It would ruin the game for me
High end covert operations typically recruit from within existing ranks based on whether or not one can be trusted to keep their mouth shut or some kind of leverage / blackmail device / evidence is in place...
 
Could somebody point me to the source of this quote? I thought it was from Robert Holdstock's The Dark Wheel, but I just checked that out and didn't find it.
It does credit Holdstock in The Holdstock Report, but it doesn't indicate where it came from.

"One of their stories is the legend of the Great Ship, an account of a mysterious race that lives in the Dark Wheel - a galaxy named thus because it is shrouded in black clouds of intergalactic dust and gas. This race is supposedly Human, for they are bipedal, smooth-skinned, five-fingered, and have a legend of uurth, the Mother World that spawned them. Equally indisputable is the fact that they colonised the Dark Wheel while the Human race was still in the Stone Age.

It is now known that during the first phase of Humankind's expansion into the stars, a generation ship, populated by more than a million colonists, passed through a warp fault in space and was flung across time and space emerging into the Narathnu Sector at a time when no galaxies in that area had yet developed fully intelligent life. The Humans settled many worlds in the Dark Wheel, but it is thought that their passage through the warp hole had affected their minds, causing them to be intensely suspicious of contact with other intelligent races"
This came from an earlier Holdstock book in 1980 under a different pen name: Steven Eisler.
 
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