At the year from codex 2296 It was 6 big colonies established only. Last one was Archenar at 2292. And in 2296 Marlia Duval was killed.
So that is like 200 ly radius around Sol if optimistic.
But yet again not everything in the original game or books are in this current game, so possible they moved it well far away so it wouldnt be easy to find given its possibilities when found
 
I wanted to see if there was anything hidden in the Dark Wheel toast to Raxxla. It's a pretty vague clue, so looking at it from a different angle could help.
I switched my language to German and Spanish (from the launcher, options > language, it will take a while to reload) and went to the codex entry on Raxxla again.

Here's the German toast:
“Auf das Juwel, das an der Stirn der Mutter aller Galaxien strahlt! Auf das Flüstern in der Schäwrze des Alls, die Sirene im tiefsten Nichts! Auf der Eltern Gram, der Geliebten Klage und die Sehnsucht eines jeden Vagabunden. Auf Raxxla!”


Then I translated that with Google Translate (anyone speak German? I'd love to know how accurate this is):
On the jewel that shines on the forehead of the mother of all galaxies! On the whisper in the darkness of the universe, the siren in the deepest nothing! On the parents grief, the lover's lament and the yearning of every rover. On Raxxla!

Here's the Spanish toast:
¡Por la joya que arde en la cima de la madre de las galaxias! ¡Por la susurradora del hiperespacio, la sirena en la profundidad del vacio! Por la aflicción paternal, el infortunio del amante y el anhelo de nuestros corazones errantes. ¡Por Raxxla!

And the Spanish translation:
For the jewel that burns at the top of the mother of the galaxies! For the whisper of hyperspace, the siren in the depth of emptiness! For the paternal affliction, the misfortune of the lover and the longing of our wandering hearts. By Raxxla!


And, for reference again, the English-language toast:
"To the jewel that burns on the brow of the mother of galaxies! To the whisperer in witch-space, the siren of the deepest void! The parent's grief, the lover's woe, and the yearning of our vagabond hearts. To Raxxla!"

I know we assumed Zeta Cassopeia was the Jewel That burns on the brow of the mother of galaxies. That's because Cassiopeia is the mother of Andromeda, which is a galaxy. However, if the German changes to "mother of ALL galaxies", then it might point in a different direction... Milky Way? The Big Bang? Spanish becomes "jewel that burns AT THE TOP of the Mother of THE galaxies.". I know someone brought that part up before.

Other changes:
  • "Witch-space" becomes "darkness of the universe" and "hyperspace"
  • "Siren of the deepest void" becomes "siren in the deepest nothing" [I checked and the galactic region called "The Void" in English is still called The Void in German]
  • Sentences have 13, 13, 13, 2 words in English/German, but 14, 12, 15, 2 in Spanish. Syllable count is also different in all languages.

Stuff that stayed the same:
  • Art Tornqvist & Cora from Tau Ceti
  • Atlantis, El Dorado, Prester John (Atlantida, El Dorado, Preste Juan)
  • Omphalos Rift / Omphalos-Rift / fisura Ónfalo
  • Fernweh
  • Raxxla

Fernnweh, Raxxla and the names from the story are the only words preserved across the languages.
We still have references to the Omphalos (navel? center? specific rock in greek legend?). and something on the head of a mother who has something to do with at least one (but possibly more) galaxies.
Not sure if it was mentioned but fernweh means far away in german im pretty sure
 
So, nothing doing at Thor's Helmet, Orion Dark Region, Barnard's Loop Sector, Messier 78, or Flame Nebula area as far as I can tell. Same sectors are still locked (Horsehead Dark Region, NGC 2264, and Col 70). Tomorrow, or maybe later tonight, will check out Running Man and Orion and eventually California and Witch Head. Took some neat screenshots of BL/Orion et al from different perspectives from "behind", or spinward, which I will compare at some point to the Thargoid logos. At first glance, some look similar, some don't, some have some very interesting differences. I also may have gained an insight into why Thargoid ships look the way they do (the blossoming flower and petals etc etc.) but I will save that theory for after I sort out screenshots and can post an image. One final comment though - if it is Barnard's Loop/Horsehead/Orion etc. being represented in the logos, it is likely as viewed from coreward, because as viewed from spinward, except from a few more distant perspectives, you seem to almost always have the band of the Milky Way and its bright lights cutting across it. Also, you often have the Lesser and Greater Magellanic Clouds in the same view as well. Anyways, that's enough space madness for now.
Sometimes I forget myself and look for real mysteries. That's what happened to me during the unraveling of the Guardian's bases. But after that failure (I couldn't collect all the keys on my own from an alleged bug in the program) I keep trying to hit myself over the head.

I do not understand how you can look for something in the game where there are closed areas, and maybe they are just closed to the right time and do not require any permission.

As for the mark Thargoids I'm afraid to get it on his aircraft carrier or a ship, because I think as soon as I get such a mark then immediately come interceptor and suck me all.
 
LOL, personally I enjoy this thread. It's like a little parallel universe all of its own, full of stories, speculation, winding paths and glorious hopes and dreams. I'll take it over six thousand pages of salt and bile (not hard to find in any other part of the forum!) any old day of the week.

Keep it up seekers! It's about the journey... not the destination.
07 CMDRs
Maybe that's the thing we are missing.. as said. Raxxla is a rumoured myth...talked about... the jokes on us.. its exactly that..i really hope not or rage quit world wide :/
 
Well, let’s face it...
Not many documents published by anyone else! 😉
That's right. Other documents are only available to members of the other organization and if they are published, the developers can see it and adjust the game.

Someone said: Whatever the rules of the game, they are the same for both sides.
 
Galnet: "Pilots can provide further help by directly delivering repair materials to damaged starports"
but it doesnt say what materials!

Edit: Ah, maybe that’s a second phase as they’re only asking for Basic & Advanced Medicines!
 
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Well, adjust the tinfoils because I am going to expose my theory.

The Raxxla logo from the codex can be interpreted in various ways. My interpretation of the logo is that it could be a system with one star and three asteroid belts, this system containing 33 bodies. It would also be necessary to go through six different systems to access it. What if everything was as simple as jumping to six systems in a specific order to open Raxxla's door and jump to the final system?

Perhaps everything is as obvious as jumping around spelling the word RAXXLA using one letter for each system. After many days looking for systems I have realized that the word RAXXLA can be spelled with six jumps if we start with the RA system (ancient Egyptian deity of the sun, the jewel that burns, RAxxla ...)

Ok, these are the systems adjacent to RA that the word RAXXLA can be formed with: RA - AINE - XIRANG - XIHE - LAMAKU - ADAD

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R: RA (Ra was believed to rule in all parts of the created world: the sky, the Earth, and the underworld. He was the god of the sun, order, kings and the sky.Ra was portrayed as a falcon and shared characteristics with the sky-god Horus. At times the two deities were merged as Ra-Horakhty, "Ra, who is Horus of the Two Horizons".)

A: AINE (Aine is an Irish goddess of summer, wealth and sovereignty. She is associated with midsummer and the sun, and is sometimes represented by a red mare. As the goddess of love and fertility, she has command over crops and animals and is also associated with agriculture.)

X: XIRANG (also known as hsi-jang, Swelling Earth, self-renewing soil, breathing earth, and living earth is a magical substance in Chinese mythology that had a self-expanding ability to continuously grow.)

X: XIHE (One of the two wives of Di Jun (along with Changxi), she was the mother of ten suns in the form of three-legged crows residing in a mulberry tree, the Fusang, in the East Sea. Each day, one of the sun birds would be rostered to travel around the world on a carriage driven by Xihe. Folklore also held that once, all ten sun birds came out on the same day, causing the world to burn; Houyi saved the day by shooting down all but one of the sun birds.)

L: LAMAKU (No references, Indonesian word for "my old")

A: ADAD (Adad, Haddad (Akkadian) or Iškur (Sumerian) was the storm and rain god in the Canaanite and ancient Mesopotamian religions. Represented as a thunderbolt, a lion or a bull. Equivalent Gods: Zeus, Jupiter, Ba'al .)


I have tried jumping in order, in reverse, trying all the combinations and I have not found anything. Maybe you have to fly with some kind of item in the cargo hold but the task is colossal with the large amount of items in the game. I've started testing with Guardian cargo but it may take me forever to test this theory, so I'm sharing it for anyone who wants to test it.

This theory may not get anywhere, like all the ones we've tried before, but I think it's worth a try. All kinds of suggestions are accepted.

o7
 
I wanted to see if there was anything hidden in the Dark Wheel toast to Raxxla. It's a pretty vague clue, so looking at it from a different angle could help.
I switched my language to German and Spanish (from the launcher, options > language, it will take a while to reload) and went to the codex entry on Raxxla again.

Here's the German toast:
“Auf das Juwel, das an der Stirn der Mutter aller Galaxien strahlt! Auf das Flüstern in der Schäwrze des Alls, die Sirene im tiefsten Nichts! Auf der Eltern Gram, der Geliebten Klage und die Sehnsucht eines jeden Vagabunden. Auf Raxxla!”


Then I translated that with Google Translate (anyone speak German? I'd love to know how accurate this is):
On the jewel that shines on the forehead of the mother of all galaxies! On the whisper in the darkness of the universe, the siren in the deepest nothing! On the parents grief, the lover's lament and the yearning of every rover. On Raxxla!

Here's the Spanish toast:
¡Por la joya que arde en la cima de la madre de las galaxias! ¡Por la susurradora del hiperespacio, la sirena en la profundidad del vacio! Por la aflicción paternal, el infortunio del amante y el anhelo de nuestros corazones errantes. ¡Por Raxxla!

And the Spanish translation:
For the jewel that burns at the top of the mother of the galaxies! For the whisper of hyperspace, the siren in the depth of emptiness! For the paternal affliction, the misfortune of the lover and the longing of our wandering hearts. By Raxxla!


And, for reference again, the English-language toast:
"To the jewel that burns on the brow of the mother of galaxies! To the whisperer in witch-space, the siren of the deepest void! The parent's grief, the lover's woe, and the yearning of our vagabond hearts. To Raxxla!"

I know we assumed Zeta Cassopeia was the Jewel That burns on the brow of the mother of galaxies. That's because Cassiopeia is the mother of Andromeda, which is a galaxy. However, if the German changes to "mother of ALL galaxies", then it might point in a different direction... Milky Way? The Big Bang? Spanish becomes "jewel that burns AT THE TOP of the Mother of THE galaxies.". I know someone brought that part up before.

Other changes:
  • "Witch-space" becomes "darkness of the universe" and "hyperspace"
  • "Siren of the deepest void" becomes "siren in the deepest nothing" [I checked and the galactic region called "The Void" in English is still called The Void in German]
  • Sentences have 13, 13, 13, 2 words in English/German, but 14, 12, 15, 2 in Spanish. Syllable count is also different in all languages.

Stuff that stayed the same:
  • Art Tornqvist & Cora from Tau Ceti
  • Atlantis, El Dorado, Prester John (Atlantida, El Dorado, Preste Juan)
  • Omphalos Rift / Omphalos-Rift / fisura Ónfalo
  • Fernweh
  • Raxxla

Fernnweh, Raxxla and the names from the story are the only words preserved across the languages.
We still have references to the Omphalos (navel? center? specific rock in greek legend?). and something on the head of a mother who has something to do with at least one (but possibly more) galaxies.

Not sure if it was mentioned but fernweh means far away in german im pretty sure
Fernweh basically means to yearn for the far. It's the of opposite of homesick (Heimweh in german).


In my opinion the toast is still one of the most solid puzzles there are in regard to tdw or raxxla so excuse my tinfoil as i dive in a little :)

My translation from german to english (am native german):

"To the Jewel, that shines at the forehead of the mother of all galaxies! To the whispers in the blackness of space, the siren in the deepest nothing! To the parents grief, the lovers woe (lament works too) and yearning of every vagabond! To Raxxla!"

The main differences being:

They chose to write forehead (Stirn) instead of brow (Braue), but seeing it as calling it the middle or the focal point of something/place gets across either way, more visually speaking (trying to find the eyes) it would place the supposed jewel kind of differently. Interesting fact, "Gestirn", is a german word for light emitting or reflecting bodies in space.
"Stirn" can also mean a front facing part.
Mother of all galaxies seems to be the implication of the original english text too imo, it just gets specificly pointed out in german, don't know why (could just as easily been "Mutter der Galaxien" which would have been a perfect fit).
Also, the german text does not only refer to A "whisperer" but general whispers, but refering to the siren in the same sentence just like the original, makes the source of the whispers kind of singular again. "Schwärze" could be translated to darkness but "blackness" is a much closer. Of course the darkness of space tends to be black so no big news here but still a wierd choice of words.
The deepest nothing is also a wierd choice as Quoted OP stated The Void is also called the Void in the german translation of the game, meaning the void mentioned in the toast could be a entirely different place to the one on the map.
Rover apparently is just an older word for vagabond so yeah, "Vagabund" is just Vagabond.

The difference in wording and word count could mean one of three things:
1. the hints the toast gives are even more vague than we tought OR just partially with more specific information troughout different translations
2. there is a specific sequence or phrasing to be found in the toast, respective of the languages structure and/or poetic customs, so the changes are on purpose
3. bad translation

if the first option is believable it would mean that:
-the placement of the "jewel" is more of a central object than lying between two "eyes"
-the mother of all galaxies is not Cassiopeia, but maybe something either more cosmological or an even more important name giving entity
-witchspace not being mentiones could mean either its not important or the english translation has the next piece of info needed taht identifies the blackness as witchspace
-the void in the toast is not the void we know

Option two reeks of spacemadness so i stay away from that until my options run out.

of course bad translation is the easiest option, but the toast itself is not arkwardly worded at all, it all fits well, just some facts are off, so either the translator had some freedoms in translating the toast (which would be suspicious if considered a hint), or it was just not that important to get right (which would atleast exclude the toast as a piece of the puzzle).

I picked this toast apart time and time again, in german and english alike, thought id chime in to clear the german translation.

Happy Hunting o7
 
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Well, adjust the tinfoils because I am going to expose my theory.

The Raxxla logo from the codex can be interpreted in various ways. My interpretation of the logo is that it could be a system with one star and three asteroid belts, this system containing 33 bodies. It would also be necessary to go through six different systems to access it. What if everything was as simple as jumping to six systems in a specific order to open Raxxla's door and jump to the final system?

Perhaps everything is as obvious as jumping around spelling the word RAXXLA using one letter for each system. After many days looking for systems I have realized that the word RAXXLA can be spelled with six jumps if we start with the RA system (ancient Egyptian deity of the sun, the jewel that burns, RAxxla ...)

Ok, these are the systems adjacent to RA that the word RAXXLA can be formed with: RA - AINE - XIRANG - XIHE - LAMAKU - ADAD

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R: RA (Ra was believed to rule in all parts of the created world: the sky, the Earth, and the underworld. He was the god of the sun, order, kings and the sky.Ra was portrayed as a falcon and shared characteristics with the sky-god Horus. At times the two deities were merged as Ra-Horakhty, "Ra, who is Horus of the Two Horizons".)

A: AINE (Aine is an Irish goddess of summer, wealth and sovereignty. She is associated with midsummer and the sun, and is sometimes represented by a red mare. As the goddess of love and fertility, she has command over crops and animals and is also associated with agriculture.)

X: XIRANG (also known as hsi-jang, Swelling Earth, self-renewing soil, breathing earth, and living earth is a magical substance in Chinese mythology that had a self-expanding ability to continuously grow.)

X: XIHE (One of the two wives of Di Jun (along with Changxi), she was the mother of ten suns in the form of three-legged crows residing in a mulberry tree, the Fusang, in the East Sea. Each day, one of the sun birds would be rostered to travel around the world on a carriage driven by Xihe. Folklore also held that once, all ten sun birds came out on the same day, causing the world to burn; Houyi saved the day by shooting down all but one of the sun birds.)

L: LAMAKU (No references, Indonesian word for "my old")

A: ADAD (Adad, Haddad (Akkadian) or Iškur (Sumerian) was the storm and rain god in the Canaanite and ancient Mesopotamian religions. Represented as a thunderbolt, a lion or a bull. Equivalent Gods: Zeus, Jupiter, Ba'al .)


I have tried jumping in order, in reverse, trying all the combinations and I have not found anything. Maybe you have to fly with some kind of item in the cargo hold but the task is colossal with the large amount of items in the game. I've started testing with Guardian cargo but it may take me forever to test this theory, so I'm sharing it for anyone who wants to test it.

This theory may not get anywhere, like all the ones we've tried before, but I think it's worth a try. All kinds of suggestions are accepted.

o7
Sounds very similar to something I undertook some time ago (logged in this thread), whereby I identified a concentric spiral close to Sol that spelt out Rax la...it was just missing an X, it was rather simple and obvious and to my surprise, the alignment with an overlaid concentric spiral map, fitted perfectly... but I never found anything...

Did map lots of undiscovered and partially discovered systems, with very close range to Sol, but still could have flown straight past it without knowing...

I do feel if there are clues in game they will correlate once we find them and they will be obvious. I don’t believe MB statement of there being no clues, because 1 I feel he was alluding to the questions being asked of him at that time or 2 that there was nothing to show at that time because it’s could also be a narrative locked item.

However if Raxxla’s location is purposely placed, and not arbitrary, it stands to reason the system naming has some meaning and can be associated with elements from the Codex, but obviously we haven’t as yet been able to isolate this.

Good work to Cmdr Exekrator, any theory is a valid theory here and kudos for its application. Keep up the good work.
 
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The center of the Thargoid logo is most likely Barnards loop as seen from Cone nebula or perhaps even the cone nebula itself, possible the outside of the logos corespond to the location view of the cone nebula from where each "faction" "Clan" or most likely Hive of that thargoid calls a somewhat home, possible in certain parts of NGC 2264

That makes sense. In my travels the areas where it seemed to match most closely from spinward were the distant views from the Orion Dark Region, which isn't that far from Cone Nebula, for varying definitions of far. I'm just a couple of years behind the times and wanted to check it out myself (plus somewhere I have an image of the Pleiades from a video that looked very similar also, so still hanging on to the remote chance of that theory).

Did you or anyone else manage to get into NGC 2264 or Cone Nebula before they were locked down to check the views?
 
I do feel if there are clues in game they will correlate once we find them and they will be obvious. I don’t believe MB statement of there being no clues, because 1 I feel he was alluding to the questions being asked of him at that time or 2 that there was nothing to show at that time because it’s could also be a narrative locked item.
By no clues I'm guessing he mean't they weren't going to put anything on the forums or social media or the like along the lines of "have you listened to it". ;-)

Pretty confident as well that there will be some sort of bread crumb trail in game that we can follow, it is just finding the start of that trail and interpreting it correctly at all stages which is the challenge. That and not knowing whether it is behind some sort of lock based on commander status or affiliation/faction or something else entirely that needs to be met before the start of the bread crumbs are even revealed somehow in game.
 
I don’t believe MB statement of there being no clues,

Well if you want proper tinfoil, and Ive never mentioned it coz its too much tinfoil, the statement 'There will be no clues' is a future tense statement. It allows for there to be existing clues already there in the present or past. But I dont really hold to that view myself, just keep it in the back of my mind to look for any supporting evidence, of which there has been none so far.
 
Well if you want proper tinfoil, and Ive never mentioned it coz its too much tinfoil, the statement 'There will be no clues' is a future tense statement. It allows for there to be existing clues already there in the present or past. But I dont really hold to that view myself, just keep it in the back of my mind to look for any supporting evidence, of which there has been none so far.
But presumably the Codex info for Raxxla and TDW are clues, hence...

Unless they are false leads of course.
 
Well, let’s face it...
Not many documents published by anyone else! 😉
Which is suspicious in and of itself. ;-)

Oddly, I didn't see any Canonn documents referenced there, but might have missed them, have only had a quick look so far. Also suspicious. But then again I am now naturally suspicious and trust no one. Except penguins maybe.
 
Unless they are false leads of course.

In English they are written as 'stories' or 'myths' mostly. The one piece of evidence is a reference to a diary or journal kept by Art, all that proves is that Art mentioned the same myth or story. theres a few 'debunkers' in there as well, its not a gateway to alternate universes etc that are written as more 'final word' to draw a line under and move on. It kind of ties up the old myths, debunks a few, and tries to set the record straight of what we should now believe (as opposed to any old lore or Oolite lore that may have crept in).

Even the DW toast is 'allegedly' that of the DW, same for the Station but thats written as 'probably true but not found' that it exists somewhere.

Not sure how they translate and even in English its subtle, which allows for all sorts of interpretations, but some of it is definitely 'weighted against' and some is 'weighted towards' which seems to imply we are supposed to disregard some as pure myth or story and believe more in others.

What we dont know is how true any of it is as you say. Could be deliberate disinformation but that seems more and more unlikely as time goes by and it is supposed to be taken at face value.
 
Actually unless my phone screen is dying, or very dirty, it looks like there are several missing pixels in the bottom left? Looks like a skybox view of a pattern of stars (or stars and planets) maybe. Also it's through the entire image.
 
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