I'm going to assume you are sarcastic, as exploration is already as nerfed and poor-paying as it can be ...
Time to nerf exploration!!
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I'm going to assume you are sarcastic, as exploration is already as nerfed and poor-paying as it can be ...
That won't be fair for those entering the game late. With so many systems around the bubble having already been scanned, getting zero from scanning them for new players will completely kill the exploration aspect of the game. As it is, there's already little financial incentive from exploring. You get 1200CR for a new star? 400CR for a new moon?
Exploring needs to be buffed, not nerfed. Now with more material needs for engineering, landable objects with materials on it needs to earn you MORE credits, not less.
I seem to remember, way back in the olden times of yore, before all the updates and exploration bonus's, back when explorers were scared of cracking a canopy on a bad jump into a tight binary, when it took an age to plot a full 100ly jump route and every new system was branded "here be dragons", that back then FDev had said that pilots attempting to sell scans of previously scanned systems would suffer depreciating returns on the data any way.
I must have read or heard it somewhere because I remember, back in the early days, that whilst there was the obvious rush to get out there and get your name on something, there was also a drive to get out there and scan stuff because the more people that sold the same data, the less it would be worth anyway.
Surely, if you were to want to nerf income from exploration (and don't misunderstand me, I most definitely do not agree with that sentiment) then the best option would be to implement this feature.
In that way, first and early scans of a system would still reward the discovering players well, but as concurrent players returned data for the system, the data value would decrease in a natural way.
If nothing else, it'd eradicate the Road to Riches issue - there's no point following the same route as a couple of thousand other players if your data is going to be worth progressively less and less as more commanders complete the route before you.
I must have read or heard it somewhere because I remember, back in the early days, that whilst there was the obvious rush to get out there and get your name on something, there was also a drive to get out there and scan stuff because the more people that sold the same data, the less it would be worth anyway.
Surely, if you were to want to nerf income from exploration (and don't misunderstand me, I most definitely do not agree with that sentiment) then the best option would be to implement this feature.
In that way, first and early scans of a system would still reward the discovering players well, but as concurrent players returned data for the system, the data value would decrease in a natural way.
If nothing else, it'd eradicate the Road to Riches issue - there's no point following the same route as a couple of thousand other players if your data is going to be worth progressively less and less as more commanders complete the route before you.
In september 2017 only the 0,003% of the galaxy has been explored, so newcomers will have a lot to explore. The problem is that 50.000ly away systems pays as 20+ly system and this is not an incentive to explore at all.
Yeah, but then they should buff CPH so we have even less that we want to buy with it and reason to make it. [up]
The R2R is not exploration though, it’s flying a preset already explored course with strategic targets calculated to maximize credits per hour. Actual exploration earns far, far less than that, and your requested nerf would negatively impact a great many people who do not currently make much in the way of credits. At least not when compared to every other way of earning credits in the game.
I offer you a challenge Darth. More of a science experiment really. Fly out 10,000 lys in any direction from the bubble, fly back to the bubble, and then sell your exploration data. Keep track of your hours played as you do this. Now calculate how many credits per hour you made on this exploration trip, then post the number here into your “nerf exploration’s payout” thread.
Then tell us with a straight face why exploration needs a nerf again.
You'll have to give me a week or three to finish this course of treatment and get out of the hospital first, but that sounds like an imteresting proposal
For some reason it won't let me reply with quotea. That sounds like an interesting experiment @Mengy, you'll have to give me around 3 weeks to finish this course of treatment and get out of the hospital though before I can participate in this mentioned experiment.
And before The Source 0179 accuses me of deflection, I can post proof of my hospitalisation if you really want me to, ti prove i'm not intentionally dodging the challenge
And before The Source 0179 accuses me of deflection, I can post proof of my hospitalisation if you really want me to, ti prove i'm not intentionally dodging the challenge
Okay i'll fess up. I mentioned R2R in the Nerf skimmers thread to stir the pot . If people really think this is an exploit when considering the time put in and the credits returned, they are dillusional . Try it, see how long it takes, how boring it gets and how messed up some of those coordinates are .
But i loove fishing and got a good bite. Dav's hope anyone? [squeeeee] salt inbound in 3..2..1 [up]
. If people really think this is an exploit when considering the time put in and the credits returned, they are dillusional . Try it, see how long it takes, how boring it gets and how messed up some of those coordinates are . But i loove fishing and got a good bite
. Dav's hope anyone? [squeeeee] salt inbound in 3..2..1 [up]
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Go right ahead and nerf exploration, don't bother me none. I end up flushing 3/4's of my earnings on random donation missions when I get back anyway.
and #bringbackthebeige
That's the CORRECT answer. You win a lifetime subscription to watch the salt mine daily. Ooh and a Cookie
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Nerf Exploration, don't nerf Exploration, it will make no difference, we will still go into the deep void, and you'll still have to look at our names as you jump into the system and look for places...yep, you are just following in our footsteps, we were there first.
Nerf Exploration, don't nerf Exploration, it will make no difference, we will still go into the deep void, and you'll still have to look at our names as you jump into the system and look for places...yep, you are just following in our footsteps, we were there first.
Yep,,catch us if you can
I agree with OP it needs nerfing but really I think we are all missing the most obvious thing that needs a good swing of the nerf bat........
The ED Store and frontiers income, I mean seriously they are making far far far too much creds per/hr and it needs a good nerf. I mean common no one should be making so much, it's truly ruining the BGS and having a negative impact on me...
The ED Store and frontiers income, I mean seriously they are making far far far too much creds per/hr and it needs a good nerf. I mean common no one should be making so much, it's truly ruining the BGS and having a negative impact on me...
Fine with me. It pays so little I doubt anyone would notice. Explorers aren't out in the black to make credits.
The risk is fatigue. You WILL make a mistake - it’s not a matter of if, always of when. And when you make a mistake, you better hope it’s not that you entered a high g planet or got too close to a bright star. Either the damage from impact or heat damage when escaping could very well kill you in most ships. You could lose countless hours of playtime and be set back some more, too, due to the rebuy. It’s not for the faint of heart.
Their store kinda is rather ludicrous though...