Out of Fuel? - Explorer Rescue Service, The Fuel Rats

[Ravenov]

Just managed to be in need of fuel for the first time, jumped to a dwarf with the last fumes without noticing during a conversation...

3 Months worth of data......

Luckily, I was rescued really fast considering I am still ~23kly out from the bubble.

Thanks again to the Fuelrats and everyone involved, you guys rock!

10/10

Helped a little as i have an account parked in Colonia for such eventualities, but glad to save all that data!

~AKA CMDR Konisho

 

[Stinja]

Does anyone still BGS?
Just I was idly flicking thru our systems, and noticed the 13th Legion have attacked and taken over CD-76 1091. I'm certain it was ours once, but meh, only thing is if they start going for our other systems I guess.

 

[Orange Sheets]

Does anyone still BGS?
Just I was idly flicking thru our systems, and noticed the 13th Legion have attacked and taken over CD-76 1091. I'm certain it was ours once, but meh, only thing is if they start going for our other systems I guess.

Yeah some people still do. Not as much as in the haydays.

Regarding other PMFs, our stance holds: we don't engage. If someone else takes on systems all fair and square, then more power to them. Exception is naturally with our home system.

 

[Orange Sheets]

Cmdr Kahless joined up about a month ago to research for this awesome piece! Deffo worth checking out, it has some orange in it!

Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MepXqkG5ES0

 

[Alec Turner]

Cmdr Kahless joined up about a month ago to research for this awesome piece! Deffo worth checking out, it has some orange in it!

Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MepXqkG5ES0

Just brilliant! Single best Fuel Rat documentary video I've ever seen!

 

[Uvelius Sång]

Silent in here!
Anyway, I finally managed to become Elite in Elite
... and hopefully I'll be able to Rat again soon, my Rattalooga needs a good brush-the-dust-off ^,^/

 

[Alec Turner]

Silent in here!
Anyway, I finally managed to become Elite in Elite
... and hopefully I'll be able to Rat again soon, my Rattalooga needs a good brush-the-dust-off ^,^/

Bravo sir! I have to confess it's probably now been years since I was last active as a Fuel Rat (is there a way to get at our personal log of Fuel Rats rescues so I can find out?). How time flies!

 

[Stinja]

I still rat from time to time. I hit 400 first limpets end of 2017, and only done 40 since then.
Need to get on and do some more Buckyballing though, just find it hard to get the time to plan, and then do say 3 runs in a session to see decent improvements.

Cmdr Kahless joined up about a month ago to research for this awesome piece!

Watched it all, very extensive, nice job.

 

[Alec Turner]

 

[Orange Sheets]

I do prefer news that don't break!

 

[Mysturji]

I'm trying to sign up to be a rat, but I can't get the Kiwi IRC to work. Is it down?
Also, they seem to have changed things since the joining instructions on fuelrats.com were written. There's a drop-down box at the front saying "Custom server" and squillions of choices, but I couldn't find anything "ratty". I filled in the other details, but when I try to connect it says "We couldn't connect to that server Unknown domain name or host."

 

[Absolver]

I'm trying to sign up to be a rat, but I can't get the Kiwi IRC to work. Is it down?
Also, they seem to have changed things since the joining instructions on fuelrats.com were written. There's a drop-down box at the front saying "Custom server" and squillions of choices, but I couldn't find anything "ratty". I filled in the other details, but when I try to connect it says "We couldn't connect to that server Unknown domain name or host."

Just tested our Kiwi server, it is working normally. There shouldn't be a "custom server" dropdown box, so I doubt you're in the right place. Just click the "Get Help" followed by the "I want to chat" button on the Fuel rats webpage.

 

[Neutronium]

Sorry if it has been asked before but I am out exploring and currently trying to experiment with the limits of my current ship build (I don't know why jump range displays as null in coriolis?) but it is ~60lys laden (current) with the guardian fsd booster de-activated and around ~ 66-67lys (laden) / 72.5lys (unladen & on fumes) with guardian fsd booster active.
Right now I am trying to see how much distance I can travel in SC with all modules (except the essentials i.e. thrusters, fsd & life support)
de-activated. So now I am at ~4.1 lys from current system and towards my next waypoint. I've got around ~ 30% fuel left, of which about one third is required for the jump to the next star system. So I need to keep an eye on it now v.carefully..
1st Question is, in the scenario that I am at the outskirts of the galaxy where star density is very low and trying to reach an unreachable star system, at which point I must activate guardian booster and attempt the jump? By the looks of it I can travel around a max of 5 lys in supercruise so if a system is at a maximum of 77.5 Lys I can theoretically reach it (unladen of course cause right now I am fully laden - carrying 8 cofins aka oeps). The guardian fsd booster requires more fuel to operate so timing is crucial.
2nd Question: I've got my jumponium mats maxed out (literally.: I've got 250 25% injections, 200 50% and 150 100%). Does use of jumponium require additional fuel? I don't want to spend all my fuel only to find out I can't use jumponium..
Thanks for any advice & fly safe & stay safe.

 

[Friedenreich Xante]

Sorry if it has been asked before but I am out exploring and currently trying to experiment with the limits of my current ship build (I don't know why jump range displays as null in coriolis?) but it is ~60lys laden (current) with the guardian fsd booster de-activated and around ~ 66-67lys (laden) / 72.5lys (unladen & on fumes) with guardian fsd booster active.
Right now I am trying to see how much distance I can travel in SC with all modules (except the essentials i.e. thrusters, fsd & life support)
de-activated. So now I am at ~4.1 lys from current system and towards my next waypoint. I've got around ~ 30% fuel left, of which about one third is required for the jump to the next star system. So I need to keep an eye on it now v.carefully..
1st Question is, in the scenario that I am at the outskirts of the galaxy where star density is very low and trying to reach an unreachable star system, at which point I must activate guardian booster and attempt the jump? By the looks of it I can travel around a max of 5 lys in supercruise so if a system is at a maximum of 77.5 Lys I can theoretically reach it (unladen of course cause right now I am fully laden - carrying 8 cofins aka oeps). The guardian fsd booster requires more fuel to operate so timing is crucial.
2nd Question: I've got my jumponium mats maxed out (literally.: I've got 250 25% injections, 200 50% and 150 100%). Does use of jumponium require additional fuel? I don't want to spend all my fuel only to find out I can't use jumponium..
Thanks for any advice & fly safe & stay safe.

First of all, you cannot supercruise to another system. It is not possible. The game requires the hyperspace jump as a loading screen for the next system to generate.

You can keep the FSD booster activated at any time, as it only requires additional fuel when you use it, i.e. when you make a jump that is longer than you max jump without booster. So in your example, the fuel needed to make a 60 ly jump is the same regardless if booster is activated or not.

Jumponium does not require additional fuel. Quite the contrary in fact. Like with the supercharging at a white dward or a neutron star, it enables you to jump a bigger distance with the same fuel. So i.e. if you make a 100% injection, you can jump twice the distance with the same fuel. So in fact the injection does not only enable you to jump double distance, but in case you are low on fuel, it can enable you to jump a distance you'd normally also be able to jump, but with 50% less fuel usage.

 

[JonathanBurnage]

Also, for complete clarity, the jump distance used to determine how much fuel is required is always the distance between the two systems. It doesn’t matter if you have supercruised towards your destination - this doesn’t count.

 

[Neutronium]

First of all, you cannot supercruise to another system. It is not possible. The game requires the hyperspace jump as a loading screen for the next system to generate.

After 5 years of gameplay I think I have figured that out . I was not suggesting to cover the whole distance in SC - after all this is impossible due to fuel consumption being much much higher in SC vs per jump fuel consumption in addition to the fact that the target system is not loaded unless you actually initiate the jump.

You can keep the FSD booster activated at any time, as it only requires additional fuel when you use it, i.e. when you make a jump that is longer than you max jump without booster. So in your example, the fuel needed to make a 60 ly jump is the same regardless if booster is activated or not.

Guardian FSD Booster requires additional energy from the power plant. In fact it is the 2nd most energy consuming module after the drives/thrusters. If I have the FSD booster activated all the time, it consumes additional fuel while in SC. Check it out.

Jumponium does not require additional fuel

Ok I'll have to check that out.

Also, for complete clarity, the jump distance used to determine how much fuel is required is always the distance between the two systems. It doesn’t matter if you have supercruised towards your destination - this doesn’t count.

I am quite sure that is not the case. The fuel for the jump decreases as you SC towards the target system. The only thing you might have to do is log out and back in before the jump and open the galaxy map so that the route is re-calculated taking into account your new position. Check it out.

 

[JonathanBurnage]

I am quite sure that is not the case. The fuel for the jump decreases as you SC towards the target system. The only thing you might have to do is log out and back in before the jump and open the galaxy map so that the route is re-calculated taking into account your new position. Check it out.

Will Supercruise toward another system reduce total jump distance

Greetings CMDRs, I have been out exploring for a month and bit now and made the fatal mistake of using a Neutron star to jump into a system which I now cannot jump out of. The nearest system is about 179LY away and even with a premium FSD injection I only have 155LY jump range. My question...

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This has been tried before several times (apparently). You are probably seeing the fuel consumption dropping because your mass is dropping as you burn fuel.

 

[Friedenreich Xante]

Guardian FSD Booster requires additional energy from the power plant. In fact it is the 2nd most energy consuming module after the drives/thrusters. If I have the FSD booster activated all the time, it consumes additional fuel while in SC. Check it out.

True, but it takes fuel from your reserve tank, not your main tank, as all module do. Your reserve tank is one ton of fuel, regardless of the type of ship. Having more module on will indeed drain it faster, but it will only take a ton from your main tank once drained. The impact is very low, even in sparse regions of space, even less if you have a big ship with a big main tank. You won't notice much difference, because even a class 5 booster only drains 2,14 MW, less than a class 2 thruster. So I generally never bother with switching it off, because I would have to manually plot most of the time. It is really unnecessary with a fuel scoop, which I assume you have.

 

[JonathanBurnage]

True, but it takes fuel from your reserve tank, not your main tank, as all module do. Your reserve tank is one ton of fuel, regardless of the type of ship. Having more module on will indeed drain it faster, but it will only take a ton from your main tank once drained. The impact is very low, even in sparse regions of space, even less if you have a big ship with a big main tank. You won't notice much difference, because even a class 5 booster only drains 2,14 MW, less than a class 2 thruster. So I generally never bother with switching it off, because I would have to manually plot most of the time. It is really unnecessary with a fuel scoop, which I assume you have.

Reserve tanks are not all the same size

Ships - Reserve tank sizes for all ships

Fuel tanks The main tank We all know that our ships have one or more fuel tanks from which the frame shift drive draws fuel when jumping between systems. The amount of fuel available in these tanks is shown in a thick bar on the right of the HUD. When we plot a jump, a portion of that bar...

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[Ravenov]

You can keep the FSD booster activated at any time, as it only requires additional fuel when you use it, i.e. when you make a jump that is longer than you max jump without booster. So in your example, the fuel needed to make a 60 ly jump is the same regardless if booster is activated or not.

Either that's worded poorly or incorrect. The Guardian booster will lower fuel consumption for a jump of the same distance, vs not having it turned on ... so if your max range is normally 50Ly and you plot a jump of that distance, you'll burn your FSDs maximum fuel per jump, but activating the FSD booster your max range becomes 61.5, so you're now 10.5Ly under needing max fuel for the jump, and since fuel burn is exponential with distance, it's reduced by quite a noticeable amount.

I am quite sure that is not the case. The fuel for the jump decreases as you SC towards the target system. The only thing you might have to do is log out and back in before the jump and open the galaxy map so that the route is re-calculated taking into account your new position. Check it out.

Nope, jumps are always calculated as the distance from the entry star of the system you're in to the entry star of the system you're jumping to. Any increase in range you're seeing right now is as you shed mass from burning fuel in SC. If you search for Deluvian's rescue where they went ~140 out from the star of the system they were in, they only needed the fuel for a ~50Ly jump to get to the neighbouring star (indeed, from where they were, would have been something like a 190Ly jump).