[DW2] Distant Worlds 2 - A Journey of Discovery

More will be revealed about it later, and you can decide if mining is for you. It will certainly have some good purposes, of that I can assure you, but whether that's what you envisioned and what you like, I can't say just yet. Hang on for now and don't completely rule it out :)

Oh, mining is definitely for me, i would love to do mining during DW2 especially with the new mining mechanics. But as i said, i was just curious if theres any real reason to do it behind that besizes the mining itself. But with that answer, i will wait and see the outcome. :)
 
How do you expect mining to be useful for explorers?
I've seen some of the upcoming changes but being able to mine more, faster doesn't seem to be any advantage to exploration.
Once your cargo hold is full of ore, you're jump range is reduced and you have no place to sell it.

So I assume this has to do with gathering materials rather than ore. In the past, only common mats would drop when mining. Has that changed?
In the past, if you have a working SRV, it was quicker to just gather the mats on the surface. Will these mining changes make it faster to gather mats in space?
You still won't be able to exchange mats with other commanders and the inventory caps still apply right?
So mining equipped ships can't help other ships that aren't equipped for mining. (?)
 
How do you expect mining to be useful for explorers?
I've seen some of the upcoming changes but being able to mine more, faster doesn't seem to be any advantage to exploration.
Once your cargo hold is full of ore, you're jump range is reduced and you have no place to sell it…
I reality, other than mat extraction (so other explorers who are present can scoop it up; I myself will not be bronging a mining laser), what is being proposed here would be more properly called prospecting. From what I saw in the update recap, there will need to be some level of interaction with the rings in normalspace to fully establish their makeup so that info can be fed to eddb/edsm/inara/etc.

Also, remember the roleplay aspect of this; every expedition in history was ultimately about acquisition of resources, why should future ones in space be any different? We, as players, are going because it’ll be a fun thing to do with our online friends, but for CMDRs in the 34th century, this is literally the most important aspect of the journey, and the only reason it would ever get bankrolled.
 
... for CMDRs in the 34th century, this is literally the most important aspect of the journey, and the only reason it would ever get bankrolled.
I find this implausible. There are so many systems much closer to the bubble that can be prospected. Shipping ore from ring systems on the far side of the galaxy couldn't possibly be cost effective compared to the vast number of unexploited systems within a hundred light years of the bubble.
 
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Finally some informative news, I'm 1/3 of the way thru my 2nd circumnavigation of the galaxy, be back 11-16-3304, the DW2 trip will seem short for me.
 
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Carriers were always considered a bonus and nothing on DW2 fully depended on their inclusion or not. What the early proposals and discussions were about was to explore ideas on how expeditionary events could incorporate practical reasons to include the fantastic new mining and prospecting gameplay on deep space events. Basically bringing more gameplay opportunities and a variety of new roles for people to enjoy along the way. But as been pointed out, one or two of the initial discussions turned out to be technically unfeasible. However we're very happy to say that deep space prospecting and the new mining gameplay will most definitely have some very practical roles to play during aspects of the expedition!

Well, I stand corrected :) Now, for the update to hurry up and drop so that I can start getting used to the new system :)
 
I find this implausible. There are so many systems much closer to the bubble that can be prospected. Shipping ore from ring systems on the far side of the galaxy couldn't possibly be cost effective compared to the vast number of unexploited systems within a hundred light years of the bubble.

Think of it this way, the explorers are going to chart the the stars and planets and see what kind they are and if any are terraformable or not. The Miners are going out to prospect for minerals which will others whether any of those terraformable planets found would be worth settling in due to having either plenty of resources in the system or in nearby systems or both.
 
Think of it this way, the explorers are going to chart the the stars and planets and see what kind they are and if any are terraformable or not. The Miners are going out to prospect for minerals which will others whether any of those terraformable planets found would be worth settling in due to having either plenty of resources in the system or in nearby systems or both.

As it already says in the OP, the DW2-Expedition will be the first big expedition that tests the new mechanics and if we are to believe the exploration livestream, there will be new things (including new USS) to be found. Whether by scanning systems or the new mining mechanics we do not yet know. Also it is very possible that in the Beta FD will not spoil the cool stuff they said they added to the galaxy. So hopefully the fleet will be able to truly explore the galaxy again. By scanning, by mining, by finding geological features and by doing the science. Maybe even material-gathering will again have its uses in the new system.
 
As it already says in the OP, the DW2-Expedition will be the first big expedition that tests the new mechanics ...

True. One of my concerns is how much slower traveling with the new mechanics will be. I'm just hoping I can keep up with the expedition and not fall behind.
 
True. One of my concerns is how much slower traveling with the new mechanics will be. I'm just hoping I can keep up with the expedition and not fall behind.

We'll find out on Tuesday, I'm hanging fire atm, parked up, waiting for the Beta. Because we don't know when the Beta timestamp was taken.

Then the first job is to find a good dozen systems that I've not explored yet.....& compare scanning times between the current method & the new method for the same systems.
 
True. One of my concerns is how much slower traveling with the new mechanics will be. I'm just hoping I can keep up with the expedition and not fall behind.

Surely depends on how much you will want to scan per system. So far I understood, you can still do honk-athons. Which means that you can cover the distance between two waypoints in a mere 2 hours or so (~70 jumps in a 70 ly ship) if you decide to have a look at the new screen. That would give you several days of exploration around the waypoints or enable a lot of stopovers if your honk reveals waves that are worthy of a closer look.
 
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True. One of my concerns is how much slower traveling with the new mechanics will be. I'm just hoping I can keep up with the expedition and not fall behind.

A very quick and dirty calculation tells me that if you have a 50ly ship and you want to spend an average of 10 minutes in each system you pass through, you will need about 3 hours per day.

So if someone absolutely HAS to scan EVERY object per system, it's still do-able. For everyone else, who won't be spending 10 minutes in EACH system, it's looking to be a very easy expedition.

Also, not all has been revealed yet, so let me just state in writing that it's going to be very easy to keep up with the fleet for 99% of people. You can hold me to it (not legally of course, I deny anything and everything I say!)

Keep an eye out as more details get unfurled in the op and beyond. Hope you've all subscribed to this thread or at least some sort of social media outlet o7
 
True. One of my concerns is how much slower traveling with the new mechanics will be. I'm just hoping I can keep up with the expedition and not fall behind.
No rules saying you have to scan everything (or anything) in the system if you're in a hurry.
I don't expect it to slow me down unless I want it to. I should still be able to average 1 minute per jump.
If I'm exploring, I'm exploring. If I'm trying to get somewhere, I'm making time. I honk the systems I pass through of course but often don't even open the system map if I'm in a hurry.
In cases where I want to scan everything or at least a few planets in the system, I expect it to speed things up.
 
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Ooh, I fancy this very much. Looking forward to it and I hope I can contribute somehow. Thanks again for taking the time to arrange it everyone involved, cheers!

Btw, just out of curiosity. Why Pallaeni? It's a rather unremarkable system even if I remember it was the start also for DW1. Game start for Erimus?
 
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