The Formidine Rift - Part 2

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Tin-Foil Time! I went through all of Drew's posts (ever) and compiled the interesting ones here for reference. Make of them what you will, I'll be reading them and posting some conclusions separately.


People can live to an old age, but not forever. I don't believe anyone has reached 200 years for instance. I had one character in my book that was born in 3117 and was still alive in 3300. She was very frail though.


Cheers,


Drew.
You'll find that Kahina supported Arissa. This was no accident. The Lore continues...


Cheers,


Drew.
Kahina never had a claim to the throne. The Lorens are only distantly related to the Duvals (in the manner of most high ranking Imperial families) and she was only Senator of a single system with a relatively small space fleet at her disposal. Kahina supported Arissa throughout as the most traditional Imperial candidate.


She isn't fond of Patreus.


Cheers,


Drew.
It is indeed banned, but some rogue AIs escaped. For all we know, they are still out there.


Cheers,


Drew.
He did indeed confirm there were other alien lifeforms out there.


Cheers,


Drew.
According to lore, the Alliance had the most advanced shipyards in the Elite universe. Perhaps they are biding their time and letting the Empire and Federation show off a little first before they show what a real spacecraft looks like.


The Alliance will have its day in the sun. Let's be patient. OK... let's be more patient.


Cheers,


Drew.
What little there is publicly availably is contained here.


http://www.dream-ware.co.uk/first-encounters/journals/all/


Beyond that, what we can say is that AI is illegal and banned by treaty. Over the centuries, some rogue AIs may have escaped into deep space and there were rumours from the Delta Pavonis system...


Have fun.


Cheers,


Drew.
Quote Originally Posted by LordZoltan
Unfortunately this is irrelevant to everything...


Using strong language there to ensure that any future connection between her and anything is dispelled.


Kahina is a creation of Drew Wagar, from the book he wrote. Any connection between her activity or any official storyline in game (therefore UAs, SS1 or anything else) is entirely coincidental and generally designed to conflate one with the other. Basically, a giant red herring.
I'm very gratified you feel so confident.


Cheers,


Drew.


Ps. And it might be fun to work the Canonn into the canon, perhaps with some cannon. That would make it multi-cannon, yes?
Well, there was a Courier and Cutter in Elite: Reclamation. The cutter was called the 'Caduceus' and the Courier the 'Seven Veils'.


Bear in the mind the book was finalised at the end of 2013, at the 'alpha' stage of the game, long before those ships were realised by the devs and designers.


As a result the descriptions are a bit vague as they were based on teaser/speculative/early access info.


The cutter was described as a big Imperial ship capable of carrying two fighters along with it for defence. They were ambushed by six ships and overwhelmed.


By contract, the courier was based on the ship from the Elite Sequel: FFE and turned about to be rather bigger than the ship that was eventually called the Imperial Courier in Elite: Dangerous.


Cheers,


Drew.
I'd spell it correctly too. RaxxLa.


Don't expect to solve this one any time soon, I suspect it's going to be bigger than the Thargoids.


Cheers,


Drew.
Quote Originally Posted by clavain View Post
Erimus, I thought Salomé was only interested in what was on the other side of the Formidine Rift... won't she be going the wrong way? ;-)
Salomé is interested in all sorts of things beyond the Frontier...


"Shall we?"


Cheers,


Drew.
Considering the Thargoids are way more technically advanced than us, they will be able to subdue us without much difficultly should that be what they wish to do. FD will have something rather more sophisticated up their collective sleeves than the old 'alien killing machines go on rampage' trope.


With regards to Powerplay. The skirmishing and waste of resources going on under the crazed leadership of these various fanatics will have to come to a head... someone will emerge, or perhaps leaders of the three main factions will appear - they will have to lead for humanity.


Keep watching for subtle clues.


http://www.drewwagar.com/progress-report/thargoids-the-definitive-guide/


Cheers,


Drew.
This is not entirely true. There is evidence of the existence of advanced non-Thargoid civilisations from the year 2280AD in the Elite timeline.


Cheers,


Drew.
Folks - my Oolite books are *NOT* canon. Read for fun, but they are very unlikely to have anything to do with Elite: Dangerous. Reclamation, however, is. Subtle hints are here again.


Cheers,


Drew.
Yes and no.


Upvote:


Raxxla
The Dark Wheel
FTL Comms (Holofac)


Downvote:


Antigravity
Multiple alien races


Cheers,


Drew.
Do note that the Alliance (strictly speaking Argent Aerodynamics Amalgamated Inc - AAAI) shipyards were completely devastated in 3253 by INRA forces and this has set the tone for the Alliance since that time. I'm afraid I can't reveal more.


Cheers,


Drew.
Quote Originally Posted by drkaii View Post
I have heard rumours about her being out there with us, and word that she has taken a great interest in the expedition...
She has indeed. The observations she has made will be significant, I can assure you.


Cheers,


Drew.
To add my own contribution here as I've had a lot of questions since the excellent video was published.


The mystery of the Formidine Rift as described by the clues in my story, Elite: Reclamation :


1. It is there to be found in game in ED.
2. You do not need 'Horizons' to find it as it was finalised long before 'Horizons'.
3. Whether it is found or not depends entirely on who goes looking.


Cheers,


Drew.
It's not locked to a rank. All you need is wanderlust, patience and an ability to read between the lines.


As for the ship at the end of Elite: Reclamation it was actually an Imperial Clipper, though it's called a Courier in the story. You can find out why on my FAQ page > http://www.drewwagar.com/elite-dange...e-reclamation/


Cheers,


Drew.
Quote Originally Posted by drew View Post
You may want to review the etymology of the name 'Kahina' too.
Cheers,
Drew.
Quote Originally Posted by Han_Zen View Post
This woman foretold the future and everything she said would happen did in fact do so....?
Isn't it from the Arabic name al-Kahinah, meaning (as Han_Zen said) the fortune teller.
All the of Galnet articles about Lady Kahina were written by me. She has been on a series of exploration trips in the last nine months or so, but they may come to an end before long, so keep an eye out for her return. That may provide further insight.


In terms of the Rift itself, do bear in mind that this story was finalised in the gamma phase of the game. As I mentioned before, it does not require Horizons and you do not need to have read my book to take part (Though reading the story may help with the immersion, the clues from the book are all available on-line in these forums now).


From what I can see though, some basic assumptions about the characters involved have been made, which you may wish to reconsider. Remember I am primarily a 'character' writer, I like twists and misdirection.


Right on, Commanders.


Drew.
It wasn't a major reveal. It's been obvious that the Barnacles were both organic and 'alive' (for most common/reasonable definitions of 'alive') since they were discovered.


The more interesting question is this. Given the Barnacles have been found on airless worlds and (presumably) didn't evolve there, how exactly did they get there?


Cheers,


Drew.
 
Therefor I start to think wat Salome said was only to give awareness towards ED that the data he carry can influence a political faction in the bubble.
so that you can sell it to any faction you want to give influence.

Maybe it is also related to the upcoming lifestream of ED about the BGS,

Also Salome did the DWE trip herself so she have already the data to influence her faction.

I've been thinking that little 'hint' might have meant that if you've been out to the rift, selling your data to the Feds or Imps could get you into some trouble - i.e interdicted by npc's etc
 
Lets not forget that Kahina is a politician, a slaver and a daugther of the Empire. Getting a new name, does not make her the alturistic 'Queen of explorers'.
She wants to find the secret of the rift, because it will hurt her political enemies.

Well said. There's plenty of reason to believe that CoR's relationship with Salomé is one of convenience and mutual exploitation.
 
I think that if people want to get organised thay should be able to. I also think that if people don't want/can't join in with said organisation then that's fine also. :) we can and have all been working together using this forum. Some people only read the forums and are still involved. I don't think I'd have time to join a coordinated search but I sertanly wouldn't feel left out ither.
Each to there own. :)
We blaze our own trail...Wether we blaze it with others is entirely up to ourselves.
o7

Well said :)

There have been many expeditions out to explore and map the Rift regions, dating back to February 3301. Beginning with lone wolf trips, to small wings, groups, and now Dommorras execellent attempt at a coordinated search. If nothing is discovered during the current Rift ventures, the next logical progression could be to expand the current expedition and possibly set up basecamps out there, with players scouting out jumponium depots, worlds rich in boost material, getting them marked on the maps, and making the logistics of searching the most inaccessible parts of the void out there more appealing. Expanding the search and encouraging more players to take up the challenge.

The Expedition Hub has been set up exactly for these kinds of ventures. Born out of the success of Distant Worlds, explorers now have a thread dedicated to expedition info, and comms channels in place to help coordinate future events.

https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=241589

Bookmark that thread. News of expanding Rift expeditions, as well as many others to come, will appear on there as and when players set them up and the momentum to put ideas into practice grows. Anyone can set an expedition up and use the Hub to pitch it to a wider group of players who would be interested in taking part :)
 
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I can state it is not true, I came back last week from the Formidine Rift trip and have sell my data to a Imperial faction in Apurui nothing happened to this day with me.

Im now on my way going back -5600LY from Sol because last week i did see there a Salvageable shipwreck poi when I was already in jump and want to investigate it further then i will go again to the Formidine Rift but a different route

I've been thinking that little 'hint' might have meant that if you've been out to the rift, selling your data to the Feds or Imps could get you into some trouble - i.e interdicted by npc's etc
 
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https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=241589

Bookmark that thread. News of expanding Rift expeditions, as well as many others to come, will appear on there as and when players set them up and the momentum to put ideas into practice grows. Anyone can set an expedition up and use the Hub to pitch it to a wider group of players who would be interested in taking part :)

Nice! I've subscribed to the thread. ... and thanks for putting my video into the OP. Didn't expect to see that there :)
 
Are there any particular systems of interest, as I am heading to the Heart and Soul Nebula's at the moment and someone mentioned that, I could check out the rift whilst around there.

If there are any systems of interest let me know and I can throw a stream on and head to them.


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Just been told that I have got to help move some stuff today, so out the window goes my plans however I should be clear for tomorrow.
 
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From CMDR Tall Bird's compilation, I have a question: which "edge of the galactic arm" is closest to merope?


I have a feeling the mystery system is just directly south of merope (it's still part of the formidine anyway, as Drew said, Erimus' Formidine map is just "generally correct", meaning Formidine is a vast rift that extends to the southernmost part of the arm)
 
Are there any particular systems of interest, as I am heading to the Heart and Soul Nebula's at the moment and someone mentioned that, I could check out the rift whilst around there.

If there are any systems of interest let me know and I can throw a stream on and head to them.


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Just been told that I have got to help move some stuff today, so out the window goes my plans however I should be clear for tomorrow.
Systems of interest are mentioned throughout this thread but the Heart & Soul nebulae are too close to human space and so have been fairly thoroughly explored... though not exhaustively.

Other Points of Interest are mentioned in the documents: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet...GtPATAO3XJG82o-Iy-hQ/edit?pref=2&pli=1#gid=0e
 
For my part, I will try to find Tycho G before moving to other hypothesis.

Anyone already looked into mythos around kahina => prophetess and Loren => laurel leading to apollo/pythia/tiresias ?

note that the latter is related to Odysseus and the underworld. It's as far as I got in that line of inquiry.
 
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For my part, I will try to find Tycho G before moving to other hypothesis.

Anyone already looked into mythos around kahina => prophetess and Loren => laurel leading to apollo/pythia/tiresias ?

I did a bit. The oracle at Delphi seemed to be a nice intersection tying both Kahina and Apollo together but the Delphini constellation didn't seem to fit anything else without a crowbar and a lot of hammering.
 
I know, this is why I'm starting to look after tiresias :


  • He counts as a prophetess, tied to apollo.
  • He is tied to Odysseus, whom is tied to the prism system names.
  • The 2 serpent story relates to the Caduceus, which is the name of Kahina's Imp. Cutter

    Then again, space madness XD
 
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This is wat I did found -4640LY from Sol and 65000ls from the sun a canister (small survey data cache)
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Okay... I don't know if this means anything or not.

I'm still 10,000Ly on the wrong side Sol but while fuel scooping I decided to do a visual survey of the area around what we call "the Rift".

I was looking at the Bovomit systems ... didn't they used to say, "Requires Unknown Permit"? This could be nothing, could be a bug, or maybe it was always this way but ... when I highlight any of the Bovomit systems it just says "requires". It doesn't say what it requires though. Here's a screenshot of what I'm seeing:

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EDIT: When I pull up one of the REGOR systems it does have the text I was expecting to see on the BOVOMIT systems, "Requires Unknown Permit."

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Okay... I don't know if this means anything or not.

I'm still 10,000Ly on the wrong side Sol but while fuel scooping I decided to do a visual survey of the area around what we call "the Rift".

I was looking at the Bovomit systems ... didn't they used to say, "Requires Unknown Permit"? This could be nothing, could be a bug, or maybe it was always this way but ... when I highlight any of the Bovomit systems it just says "requires". It doesn't say what it requires though. Here's a screenshot of what I'm seeing:



EDIT: When I pull up one of the REGOR systems it does have the text I was expecting to see on the BOVOMIT systems, "Requires Unknown Permit."


I'm going to have a look as well as I'm going that way once I've reached the Heart and Soul Nebulas. Be interesting to know if anyone has tried this yet already as I couldn't find anything in the permit list thread apart from the region being listed.

Maybe we require a UA on board?
 
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Okay... I don't know if this means anything or not.

I'm still 10,000Ly on the wrong side Sol but while fuel scooping I decided to do a visual survey of the area around what we call "the Rift".

I was looking at the Bovomit systems ... didn't they used to say, "Requires Unknown Permit"? This could be nothing, could be a bug, or maybe it was always this way but ... when I highlight any of the Bovomit systems it just says "requires". It doesn't say what it requires though. Here's a screenshot of what I'm seeing:



EDIT: When I pull up one of the REGOR systems it does have the text I was expecting to see on the BOVOMIT systems, "Requires Unknown Permit."



This has been discussed before
Consensus then seemed to be that this is something to be filled in by Frontier later and not important yet. Also, people who have collected all currently available system permits have reported that this didn't unlock any region permit for them at this stage.
 
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